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Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

rcxdude wrote: post #19
red_trumpet wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

David Revoy doesn't recommend Fedora 40 for digital artists any more. The main reasons are regressions in tablet software with Plasma 6, and Krita not being a Wayland app. [1] https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1030/debian-12-kde-plasma-...

Yeah, sadly tablet support is one of the areas where wayland has been particularly slow in terms of getting its act together (it's explicitly disabled in krita because of this, which I think is a combo of standards not existing, compositor support, and Qt support). It's definitely the main reason I'm still on Xorg.

Which is hilarious when you realize that wayland started as an automotive infotainment project.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by pwitvoet »

One thing I particularly like about Krita is its wrap around mode. Very useful when making seamless textures! Another thing is that its file format contains a merged image, which can easily be extracted (.kra and .ora files are zip archives). I've used that to add native .kra/.ora support to a game texture conversion tool. .psd support took a lot more work in comparison.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by onionisafruit »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #38
resource_waste wrote: post #7

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There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

Why do you think Photoshop is low quality? In my mind Photoshop is very high quality. It just costs money and isn't open source.

They were saying the Photoshop is the brand name and gimp is it’s low quality replacement.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by ykonstant »

AlienRobot wrote: post #61
resource_waste wrote: post #7

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There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

Krita > GIMP, absolutely, but unfortunately both of them are centuries behind any proprietary software despite only being decades old. And I'm not even talking about PAID proprietary software. Free apps are also better. A frequent issue with FOSS is that they can handle a variety of edge cases because some technical person needed it once and went through the trouble of implementing it, but they offer a subpar experie…

Which proprietary free app is better than Krita?

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

shortformblog wrote: post #25

I use Krita for Photoshop-type stuff, and it works great. It is the only good solution I've found in FOSS-land for animated GIFs, and finding it made it easier to wean off Photoshop. Not even commercial alternatives to Photoshop offer frame-based GIF editing. But Krita, fortunately, does. I know they have a different focus these days, but it'd be nice if they promoted this.

I bet the UI is nicer for Krita gif editing than the GIMP animation plugin. Time to spend time learning it for a few GIFs I’d like to make.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by ttepasse »

ranger207 wrote: post #69
jmix wrote: post #37

What a self-indulgent writeup. The article came nowhere near answering the central question: what are the devs doing other than constantly changing the name of the project and how is this thing better than gimp.

> constantly changing the name of the project Oh, I didn't know that Krita used to be called something else. I can't find any details of what its name was before it was Krita though; do you happen to know what it was?

KImageShop → Krayon → Krita, according to this article from 2009:

https://krita.org/en/posts/2009/the-history-of-kimageshop-kr...

I googled that because the "long dead German lawyer" in the op's article made my spider-sense tingle. Of course it was Gravenreuth, the bête noire of the German internet in the 90s and 2000s.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

pjerem wrote: post #28
resource_waste wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

You are right, your theory works but it looks like you never tried OpenSUSE. It’s basically Fedora but with great administration tools, a better package manager (but it also uses rpm packages) and with optional AUR-like community packages. OpenSUSE >>> Fedora >>>> Debian Family

I wonder if there OpenSUSE distros for the RPi or if I’m best sticking to Raspbian due to the hardware quirks.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by Rinzler89 »

HeckFeck wrote: post #64
Rinzler89 wrote: post #42

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It says there the policy for shrinking down that screenshot is due to it being Microsoft copyrighted content. Probably for other copyrighted content as well. But Krita and other FOSS don't enforce this rule.

Seems a strange rule though, there are countless other websites hosting screenshots of copyrighted software. Surely it is well covered under fair use, if there needs be any legal basis.

IDK what Microsoft though, it could just be some trigger happy lawyers justifying their paychecks the same way Nintendo's do by aggressively defending any an all IP even if it's obsolete, since I doubt Microsoft and anyone there really cares that much about that V-Chat.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by resource_waste »

sgc wrote: post #65
resource_waste wrote: post #58

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Faster, feature rich, less bugs, things just work. Debian-family will have you running into hardware issues, peripheral issues, software conflicts, and using the terminal to update/install things. I used to think Linux was cheap/knockoff Windows.... No, that was just Debian-family. Fedora is better than Windows.

As somebody who has the family using debian for decades now, I am very averse to trying out a new daily driver. Of course if it really is better and not just a different way of going about things, it is worth a try. But this comment gives me no real information, just an opinionated take without pointing to anything specific other than I might need to use apt, which I like. The hardware, software, peripheral comments…

You are probably the worst person to ask about this topic because you are used to a poorly performing distro. You already learned all the terminal commands to fix things. You already know all the stuff you need to upgrade.

Most people havent been using linux for decades, and Fedora takes care of things you 'deal with'.

> The hardware, software, peripheral comments seem odd or at least about seven years out of date,

Sorry dude, this is just wrong. You literally could not run Nvidia GPUs on Debian last year due to Kernel 5. Your ignorance doesnt make this problem go away. Any new laptop + debian is a disaster.

"Don't use Nvidia, don't use laptops, learn the terminal, its not that hard to upgrade X, its not that hard to install Y, its not that hard to change Z setting"- Debianer

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by shortformblog »

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #75
shortformblog wrote: post #25

I use Krita for Photoshop-type stuff, and it works great. It is the only good solution I've found in FOSS-land for animated GIFs, and finding it made it easier to wean off Photoshop. Not even commercial alternatives to Photoshop offer frame-based GIF editing. But Krita, fortunately, does. I know they have a different focus these days, but it'd be nice if they promoted this.

I bet the UI is nicer for Krita gif editing than the GIMP animation plugin. Time to spend time learning it for a few GIFs I’d like to make.

My recommended strategy is to create a document to your preferred size and then go to File -> Import Animation Frames. You can import video or existing GIFs from there. The animation workspace is good for this, of course.
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