25 Years of Krita • Hacker News Board

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by mr_mitm » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:02 PM UTC

resource_waste wrote: post #7

sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

Wait, can you explain Fedora>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Debian? Should I be looking at switching?

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by HeckFeck » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:03 PM UTC

Rinzler89 wrote: post #3

Wow, is it just me or does that screenshot of 2005 Krita 1.4 UI[1] look absolutely amazing? All the icons are very distinctive and clear on what they do and the colors make them pop without stabbing your retinas. Perfect. Feels like the mid-2000's was the peak in software UI design and it slowly started going downhill afte that, with companies chasing the soulless corporate mono-chromatic flat design inspired from mo…

Kudos for finding a screenshot on Wiki that hasn't been downsized to a postage stamp. For some reason they aggressively enforced a new policy a couple of years ago, and now many of the screenshots are tiny.

Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vchat.PNG

What a shame to lose useful illustrations of software history.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by kirubakaran » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:03 PM UTC

resource_waste wrote: post #7

sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

How is Fedora better than Debian? (genuinely curious)

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by dluga93 » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:04 PM UTC

resource_waste wrote: post #7

sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

I used fedora 24 for a few years in the mid-late 2010s. Now I've been using Ubuntu for the past 4 years and I don't see too much difference in my daily use.

I mostly use it for development - backends and data/spark mostly, nothing lower level. What does fedora do better? Is it something that was introduced in later releases?

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by red_trumpet » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:04 PM UTC

resource_waste wrote: post #7

sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

David Revoy doesn't recommend Fedora 40 for digital artists any more. The main reasons are regressions in tablet software with Plasma 6, and Krita not being a Wayland app.

[1] https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1030/debian-12-kde-plasma-...

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by hennell » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:05 PM UTC

cranberryturkey wrote: post #2

Krita is a great replacement for photoshop.

If you're creating digital art / painting. It's a good program, but it doesn't do everything Photoshop can (nor does it try to).

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by HeckFeck » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:06 PM UTC

resource_waste wrote: post #7

sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

I wish I'd knew of Krita sooner. Genuinely one of the main drivers of my switch to Mac OS was Affinity Photo (which is excellent btw), because I was driven half insane by GIMP's frustrating keyboard controls. Need it be that difficult to unselect something?

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by influx » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:12 PM UTC

Sounds like developing in QT is awful. They have had to do so much work porting it to new versions of QT.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by rcxdude » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:13 PM UTC

red_trumpet wrote: post #15

resource_waste wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

David Revoy doesn't recommend Fedora 40 for digital artists any more. The main reasons are regressions in tablet software with Plasma 6, and Krita not being a Wayland app. [1] https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1030/debian-12-kde-plasma-...

Yeah, sadly tablet support is one of the areas where wayland has been particularly slow in terms of getting its act together (it's explicitly disabled in krita because of this, which I think is a combo of standards not existing, compositor support, and Qt support). It's definitely the main reason I'm still on Xorg.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by Gualdrapo » Fri, May 31, 2024, 12:14 PM UTC

cranberryturkey wrote: post #2

Krita is a great replacement for photoshop.

Call me paranoid, but I think it's harmful for Krita when someone frames it as a Photoshop alternative - because it really isn't.

It is a program targeted specifically at digital painting. Yes, it can do some "basic" image manipulation like Photoshop does, and even you can do some animation stuff too - but it doesn't intend to target everything image manipulation wise as Photoshop does. I for one as a graphic designer use more tools alongside it, as GraphicsMagick or Digikam's Showfoto, because there's some stuff that it's easier to do with them, or they can do some stuff Krita can't.

People hears that Krita is "a photoshop alternative" in countless comments, blog posts and etcetera and can get frustrated when they find something is lacking. And they can be one of those people that bitch about FOSS because they couldn't manage to do that specific task they can with propietary software.