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Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#51
sigh there is not enough enterprise improvements around management and security.

I'm probably a month or two away from having to disable this across the org, I dont want to but i cant disagree with the cyber sec team in the fact that its a dangerous security hole in our org.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#52
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Unfortunately there are lots of devs stuck on windows, wsl is very popular.

Lots of people prefer Windows + WSL over Mac. I can’t fathom why anyone would choose Windows over Mac or Linux.

At this stage it's because office on Mac sucks.

With the push to the new fisher price version of unified office that benefit will go away.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#53
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I was always under the impression that WSL was good on RAM - giving it back when not needed. There was never a way to tune RAM usage AFAIK.

It's only good on RAM at first. I've got to reboot my machine somewhat regularly or it gets out of control, and that's on a machine with 32GB.

Same on a machine with 64 GB and memory limited to WSL with:

  [wsl2]
  memory=8GB
In my .wslconfig. Vmmem thrashes and kills the system every couple weeks, even when I'm not running Docker (which kills it even faster)

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#54
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Waaaaaay more people use Copilot than WSL. Like probably 100000x more. Most businesses run everything on Windows and Microsoft. That's their business. They don't give a shit about Windows Home edition or nerds crying and switching to Linux. You're not their market.

Unfortunately there are lots of devs stuck on windows, wsl is very popular.

Right, but there are a lot more non devs that use windows, probably 100000:1 ratio.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#55

Microsoft Windows must be one of the world's biggest Linux distributions.

Anyone remember a zinger from Linus Torvalds a couple of decades ago: "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect." (https://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/28/magazine/the-way-we-live-...)? Horribly ironic that the Year of Linux On the Desktop™ turns out to have been ushered in by Microsoft as a subsystem firmly under Windows' thumb. How the old /. crowd would have wailed and gnashed their teeth to find out what the future turned out to be.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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> I set up dozens of computers in this lab each year from scratch ... Have you looked at automated solutions for that? If it's a cost issue, then I think even Clonezilla will let you take an image of a "golden master" (aka pc set up how you want) then deploy it over the network to image a bunch of computers at the same time.

> Have you looked at automated solutions for that? Sure, I look forward to IS&T releasing one but it's more likely to happen if I have one to suggest they review for security. > If it's a cost issue, then I think even Clonezilla will let you take an image of a "golden master" (aka pc set up how you want) then deploy it over the network to image a bunch of computers at the same time. We used to do it that way with Acr…

Ahhh yeah. I'd forgotten about PXE, it's been years since I did anything serious with that.

That can work well if the network card(s) in the computers all support PXE booting.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Only if there's no person at the helm with some sort of... um... vision, they call it?

If only Satya Nadella would dogfood the OOTB experience of Windows 11 and not whatever his IT departments set up for him, he'd probably throw his laptop out the window and fire half the Windows managers.

I'd take OOTB windows than anything the IT departments set me up any day. If you ever worked at a big corp using Windows you know what I mean.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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What's wrong with the OOTB experience? It's a million times better than it was back when I lived in the Windows OOTB experience. It seems much better than the OOTB of Ubuntu, although probably less good than MacOS.

When did you last try Ubuntu? It's actually gotten very good, to the point where I had an easier time setting up an external Blu-ray player on Linux than on Windows this past month.

My recent experience with a lenovo legion laptop was bad. Ubuntu boots then GPU driver crashes as soon you open a browser window. The end.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#59
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~20 years ago BillG would occasionally send an unhappy internal email to execs/architects with a list of annoying or nonsensical things he ran into using Windows, Office, or whatever. I can't say that it had much effect! Other than all installers being terrible, the only one I can sort of remember is a rant about "My Documents" and how the word "My" made no sense.

> a rant about "My Documents" and how the word "My" made no sense Where's the lie? They aren't the computer's document — they're mine! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX1x7pfH8fw

Exactly, so why is the computer referring to them as “My Documents”? Shouldn’t it be “Your Documents”? But I think his preference was just “Documents” so nobody would need to even consider this!

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

#60
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They should focus more on this kind of features, instead of paddling Copilot and AI every 5 minutes, or doing crazy stuff like removing the right Ctrl key to replace it with the new Copilot key. The only advantage of the latter is that is pushes more people to Linux faster. If they just focus instead on developers ( "developers! developers! developers!" ) and gamers, instead of AI gimmicks, things would be more peach…

Weird comment to make on a thread about exactly this kind of feature. They're a big organization with many people working on many different things. Some will maybe great while others will potentially suck.

> Some will maybe great

like the Microsoft vacuum cleaner

> while others will potentially suck.

everything they actually do: Windows, Office, Teams

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