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1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

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#11
Educational software has always been an abyss. While in college, my summer internships (early 1980s) were at an educational computer facility. They had a "lab" with a variety of available computers and software for teachers to try out. Virtually all of it was abysmal -- glorified flash cards.

It wasn't much different when my kids were in high school.

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#12

The only thing this shows is that the education system actively resists preparing students to succeed in a modern economy. This is the modern equivalent of saying "keyboards hurt penmanship education."

>This is the modern equivalent of saying "keyboards hurt education, penmanship education is suffering."

Ironically if I had listened to my teachers more I wouldn't be peck typing as a programmer and my penmanship would be more like cursive than the chicken scratch that I currently write.

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#13

The only thing this shows is that the education system actively resists preparing students to succeed in a modern economy. This is the modern equivalent of saying "keyboards hurt penmanship education."

I get you're going for the "AI is a tool" thing, but the problem with your analogy is that LLMs hallucinate and many students use them in lieu of doing reading and reasoning about the content.

LLMs are to english class as a car would be to running class. Yes, the tool exists and is useful but it prevents you from getting the intended benefit.

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#16

The only thing this shows is that the education system actively resists preparing students to succeed in a modern economy. This is the modern equivalent of saying "keyboards hurt penmanship education."

I get you're going for the "AI is a tool" thing, but the problem with your analogy is that LLMs hallucinate and many students use them in lieu of doing reading and reasoning about the content. LLMs are to english class as a car would be to running class. Yes, the tool exists and is useful but it prevents you from getting the intended benefit.

Seems like educators should be adding AI to their curriculum.

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#17

Damn. Only 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education? Better than expected

The other way to look at it is that 3 out of 4 teachers say AI tools do more good than harm. That's not actually what the survey said, they just have a big 35% "unsure" category, but at this point being unsure is the same as supporting AI. "if you're not against us, you're with us"

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#18
AI is unbelievably awesome for education. We just need to raise the bar. If you only use it to do the normal work (essays), it’s a waste and maybe bad.

Now, it is so much easier to teach programming… data analysis… design… all things that k12 is normally terrible at teaching.

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#19
What the teachers really are saying is that they're afraid the AI tools are coming for their jobs, and so the teachers will say anything at all to delay the inevitable.

Around here the school budgets are absolutely massive (in the hundreds of millions of dollars for a village), and if I were getting such free money, I would say anything to keep it flowing.

Re: 1 in 4 U.S. Teachers Say AI Tools Do More Harm Than Good in K-12 Education

#20

Educational software has always been an abyss. While in college, my summer internships (early 1980s) were at an educational computer facility. They had a "lab" with a variety of available computers and software for teachers to try out. Virtually all of it was abysmal -- glorified flash cards. It wasn't much different when my kids were in high school.

Number munchers, Oregon trail, Odell Lake, Rocky’s Boots, LOGO, Carmen San Diego…

My 1980s education technology was kick ass

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