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An even faster Microsoft Edge

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Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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post #9

Is Edge still sending all URLs and images to Microsoft by default?

Oh my yes. Having just set up a new Windows PC, the amount of dark patterns involved in convincing me that my PC would be completely useless if I didn't send absolutely everything to Microsoft was kind of shocking.

It also then started uploading literally my entire user folder to OneCloud - without asking. It just did it.

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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post #2

It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s default preferences is atrocious.

Totally agree.

Other aspects of Windows are so good, such as WSL, but they completely ruin it with all of this.

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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post #2

It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s default preferences is atrocious.

The extreme clickbaityness of the msn homepage that is in the browser and the start menu makes me have a very bad feeling about windows. I do not like it at all. I would assume the Windows PMs would not like it either but I guess someone has some target that they need to reach?

I feel like it underscores what a cheap/bad product windows feels like. Even though, technically it is fine (and I know you can turn it off, but defaults matter!!)

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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post #13
post #2

It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s default preferences is atrocious.

Totally agree. Other aspects of Windows are so good, such as WSL, but they completely ruin it with all of this.

So one of the main good aspects of Windows is that it can run Linux :) ?

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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Why doesn't Microsoft realize that Edge just isn't happening?

I was a *huge* Microsoft fan boy for decades. Like, I eagerly awaited releases of the products I used like Windows and Visual Studio and Excel and on and on. It was thrilling to use NT with the Windows 95 skin when it was available in beta. Sorry to nerd out so hard, but I just loved their products. Now they're just making Windows worse and worse and worse. It's almost as if they want to harm Windows.

The other day I had to help my 80 year old Dad with his Windows PC. Microsoft wanted him to "finish" setting up his PC that he has been using for 18 months. Okay, he accidentally clicked yes and then ended up somewhere that was trying to make him sign up for a Microsoft account. Yeah, my Dad doesn't even know how to do that! We had to turn off his PC to get out of it and then I had to look up how to make sure it never happens again.

Why so many dark patterns MS? My Dad already paid you for Windows. Why do you need to collect more and more and more? HE'S 80 YEARS OLD! LEAVE HIM THE F** ALONE!

As a result of all this, but especially the telemetry, my Dad's on Google docs, my Mom is on Google docs, my family is on Google docs. Never going to use 360. Nope nope nope. Sure, Google has dark patterns, but at least I know that about Google. Microsoft pretends that they aren't like that, or wants to have that brand image, and meanwhile, they're busy trying to suck up all your personal information and spy on you with telemetry and send your keystrokes to their servers.

The funny thing is that my Dad only had a Windows PC so he can run one app: Chrome. His entire internet life is in Chrome. Everything syncs with his phone. It's just NICE. You can't even imagine how much easier this makes his life and ... mine :)

So yeah, I don't want more Microsoft software in my life. I want less. Zero, would be ideal, but that's not the world I live in.

Yet.

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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This blog highlights one of the reasons I’m so skeptical about AI replacing software engineers. All of the analysis, decision to put forth telemetry and build that system, then take the results and figure out how to redo the UI (and decide to make that a priority)… I don’t see any path towards this in the near term using AI.

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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Why doesn't Microsoft realize that Edge just isn't happening? I was a * huge* Microsoft fan boy for decades. Like, I eagerly awaited releases of the products I used like Windows and Visual Studio and Excel and on and on. It was thrilling to use NT with the Windows 95 skin when it was available in beta. Sorry to nerd out so hard, but I just loved their products. Now they're just making Windows worse and worse and wors…

There wasn't even something wrong with Edge when it started. It was basically Chrome, but preinstalled. But now they had to fill it with bloat and spyware...

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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Why doesn't Microsoft realize that Edge just isn't happening? I was a * huge* Microsoft fan boy for decades. Like, I eagerly awaited releases of the products I used like Windows and Visual Studio and Excel and on and on. It was thrilling to use NT with the Windows 95 skin when it was available in beta. Sorry to nerd out so hard, but I just loved their products. Now they're just making Windows worse and worse and wors…

There wasn't even something wrong with Edge when it started. It was basically Chrome, but preinstalled. But now they had to fill it with bloat and spyware...

It's unfortunate that the entire world is headed this way. I've been bullish about tech for my ENTIRE life. Since I was a kid. But it's a weird feeling, all the data collection. Europe has the right ideas about this.

Re: An even faster Microsoft Edge

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I don't care if you get a puppy with every Edge based Bing search, I'm not using the browser that you're shoving down my throat and up my hind end so hard they're meeting in the middle. If M$ didn't make it so that exchange email exports only worked in Edge, I would never use it at all.

Every month or so Google reminds me to turn on photo backup, and RCS chats. Can't get rid of it.

Pretty sure all these big companies are equally awful.

Unfortunately the masses don't care, so the big companies just get more core to life, and keep getting worse.

If anyone knows the solution. Please run for president/prime minister/benevolent dictator.

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