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Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by tetris11 »

blissfulresup wrote: post #25
tetris11 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's very helpful, thank you...

Believe he was being cheeky about you now wanting to get /laid/ for it Since already commenting, I’d look into getting some resume assistance. Know you mentioned the kinda work you do is linear pay but perhaps if you reword your skills/what you’ve done in a clearer/relevant light you’d be able to transition easier. Good luck, thank you for posting

OH! Oh god, I did not see that.

I've been ricing my CV for a few months now. Highlighted STAR stories and projects to show my experience as a Software Dev / SysAdmin / Data Analyst / Matrix manager, made skill charts of all the languages and frameworks I've used complete with years of experience.

It looks fancy as hell from my perspective, but maybe it's time I got a second opinion on it from some professionals.

Cheers.

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by mrkeen »

giantg2 wrote: post #26
mrkeen wrote: post #4

If it takes you 60hrs/week to do 39hrs/week, you're not going to be able to fit 2*30hrs/week into 60hrs/week.

"If it takes you 60hrs/week to do 39hrs/week, you're not going to be able to fit 2*30hrs/week into 60hrs/week." Oh please, there are tons of jobs that say you only need 40 hours a week, but then they basically force you to work more. This is a common scenario, especially for IT.

Oh please, what?

What exactly are you negating here?

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by giantg2 »

mrkeen wrote: post #32
giantg2 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If it takes you 60hrs/week to do 39hrs/week, you're not going to be able to fit 2*30hrs/week into 60hrs/week." Oh please, there are tons of jobs that say you only need 40 hours a week, but then they basically force you to work more. This is a common scenario, especially for IT.

Oh please, what? What exactly are you negating here?

The idea that it's taking 60 hours to do 39 hours worth of work.

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by jf22 »

tetris11 wrote: post #14
speedgoose wrote: post #9

Life is too short to do this unless you must to survive.

the latter. I don't own property and I'm seeing the writing on the wall.

What kind of writing are you seeing?

Tech careers are fairly lucrative so you should be able to save plenty for retirement.

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by sn9 »

tetris11 wrote: post #30
sn9 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the entry-level roles you're looking at paying less than what you make as a post-doc? If you took one, would you be making more or less money in 2-5 years?

That's a really good question. Right now I'm making £55k, which is not terrible money, but it's way less than my industry peers are making whilst doing arguably less. I actually don't know how quickly my pay will scale in 2-5 years in industry. My general feeling is that regardless of how good I might be (or think I might be…), I'd still be older than the other entry-level candidates, and when a promotion would come…

Age definitely shouldn't come up during promotions. Once you have a role, people are invested in helping you grow so you can get more done.

You could probably reach out to some people in the areas you're looking to work and ask them out for a cup of coffee to find out what career progression can look like, or you could just check out public information like on levels.fyi: https://www.levels.fyi/

I'd also look into improving at the skill of salary negotiation: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

Career transitions and non-traditional backgrounds are much more common in tech than in other fields so I'd worry less about that and just start interviewing and see what happens. Worst that can happen is you get no's or low offers, but you might be shocked at what you actually do get.

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

tetris11 wrote: post #6
throwawaysleep wrote: post #2

I have done this for years. There is a whole community of us over at /r/overemployed. Yeah, you would get fired it caught. But we live in an age of layoffs. You are doomed anyway.

I want to do this fully legally. In Germany you just need to declare to your employer that you have a second job and that it won't interfere with their hours. I just want to know if its worth it, money/time-wise

then become a contractor, simple.

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by tetris11 »

jejeyyy77 wrote: post #37
tetris11 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to do this fully legally. In Germany you just need to declare to your employer that you have a second job and that it won't interfere with their hours. I just want to know if its worth it, money/time-wise

then become a contractor, simple.

I'm not sure one can contract one's services to academia like that

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by tetris11 »

sn9 wrote: post #35
tetris11 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a really good question. Right now I'm making £55k, which is not terrible money, but it's way less than my industry peers are making whilst doing arguably less. I actually don't know how quickly my pay will scale in 2-5 years in industry. My general feeling is that regardless of how good I might be (or think I might be…), I'd still be older than the other entry-level candidates, and when a promotion would come…

Age definitely shouldn't come up during promotions. Once you have a role, people are invested in helping you grow so you can get more done. You could probably reach out to some people in the areas you're looking to work and ask them out for a cup of coffee to find out what career progression can look like, or you could just check out public information like on levels.fyi: https://www.levels.fyi/ I'd also look into im…

Those are great links -- thanks a lot for this

Re: Ask HN: Is it worth working two 90% Jobs?

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Post by philomath_mn »

yahoobing wrote: post #3
throwawaysleep wrote: post #2

I have done this for years. There is a whole community of us over at /r/overemployed. Yeah, you would get fired it caught. But we live in an age of layoffs. You are doomed anyway.

Fired for what though? They are saying they’ll do the hours. They are just “working 2 jobs”. Just make sure the contracts allow it and don’t conflict e.g. both require you to turn up at 9am.

Both sides would need to sign-off, if they do then OP would be fine.

I suspect that a lot of over-employed people do not get explicit sign-off from both parties. That becomes a gray area.

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