How much is the AI necessary for this? At least for the targeting of sounds in the line of sight, that should be fairly easy to do without AI, but I don’t know about the human voice identification.
It's necessary for sales.
AI headphones let wearer listen to a single person in a crowd by looking at them
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#162If the size could shrink to the size of a small earplug, I'd love to use this as a person who is not hearing-impaired (at least they couldn't diagnose me with it, so now I'm not sure if their diagnostics sucks, or I'm just a normal person and others pretend better that they hear everything well).
In groups and with friends, it's inevitable that you end up in a busy restaurant or a bar, and it always frustrates me that I don't hear something, I ask the person to repeat only to not hear it again, usually because they repeat it at the same low level (considering the circumstances). Missing jokes and throwaway comments is even worse ("hey what are you all laughing about, I didn't hear it, could you repeat it for me like three times until I hear it").
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#163How is this AI? Not just some form of a parabolic microphone
Ask the marketing team that, they'll explain.
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#164How much is the AI necessary for this? At least for the targeting of sounds in the line of sight, that should be fairly easy to do without AI, but I don’t know about the human voice identification.
> but I don’t know about the human voice identification.
> The headphones send that signal to an on-board embedded computer, where the team’s machine learning software learns the desired speaker’s vocal patterns
Their "AI" is good ol dumb machine learning
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#165This is not AI.
Marketing begs to differ.
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#166One thing that the HN crowd should appreciate is just how expensive and shit hearing aids are. go and look the up the price, they are deeply expensive, even for basic "make it louder" type aids. Worse still, because they interfere with your ear, you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing. This means that you can't tune out other conversations/noises or stuff. The one good side effect of facebook spending b…
> you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing Do people genuinely have that ability, to listen to a specific person and ignore the rest? Asking because no matter how hard I try I can never understand a fucking thing if there's many people talking loudly in the background, it all mixes together into an incoherent whole.
I can sometimes do that with instruments in music. Never for people.
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#167One thing that the HN crowd should appreciate is just how expensive and shit hearing aids are. go and look the up the price, they are deeply expensive, even for basic "make it louder" type aids. Worse still, because they interfere with your ear, you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing. This means that you can't tune out other conversations/noises or stuff. The one good side effect of facebook spending b…
The expense isn't a tech problem, but an anti trust problem. A small cartel controls the supply, so the only incentive is to maximize profits, not out compete with better tech (0)
(0) https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/silencing-the-competition...
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#168https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail_party_effect
This is what this post (or rather just the title, tbh) immediately reminded me of.
I remember learning about it in the early 2000s. It was considered a very challenging problem, with very important applications, most notably speech recognition in natural settings.
I wonder what is the current status on this. Is this considered solved nowadays?
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
For something that you could actually sell in volume, you may not be thinking large enough in terms of "party". It's common to wear ear plugs at concerts, to avoid destroying your ears. Not imagine replacing those ear plugs with in-ear headphones that filter everything except your family/friends and the concert, while regulating the volume (if your SO talks to you make that one voice loud over the rest), maybe keep t…
> I'm not in ML/AI/etc ... At all but my understanding is that none of that is actually impossible with current tech? Over 4 years ago nvidia released a feature that lets you remove arbitrary background noise in real-time. Here's a video where a guy put a fan, vacuum cleaner and leaf blower right next to his microphone: https://youtu.be/Q-mETIjcIV0?t=535 It definitely chopped out a bunch of his natural frequency but…
i have an Asus microphone adapter which does this noise cancelling in the dongle. It was marketed as "AI" but i'm sure it's just fancy DSP in the ADC onboard. i use it with a $5 no-name clip on lav mic.
I don't sound fantastic on it, but i sound better than people using cellphone microphones and thrift store microphones. It also works if i talk loudly from another room, but won't pick up normal volume conversations in the same room, which means there's a noise gate in there, too.
I've heard a very abrasive sneeze sounds like "chew!", like a cartoon sneeze or something. I couldn't tell the difference in a blind test between a cellphone's noise cancelling with the sound recorder and the asus device vis a vis overall quality, but the gating on the asus is more aggressive. It also works better than the default discord noise reduction, but is about equal to the Krisp (iirc) implementation. Its gate is faster than discord if you have both krisp and the normal noise cancelling on.
I think they're discontinued. If i ever see one in the wild i'll be sure and buy it. I have never tried it with a decent microphone - and i do have a couple, including shure and marantz - because there's no need. I wouldn't use it for podcasting or doing anything where the overall quality would be noticed; but for discord / in game / PC telephony it works great.
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#170One thing that the HN crowd should appreciate is just how expensive and shit hearing aids are. go and look the up the price, they are deeply expensive, even for basic "make it louder" type aids. Worse still, because they interfere with your ear, you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing. This means that you can't tune out other conversations/noises or stuff. The one good side effect of facebook spending b…
Yep. My grandma (may she rest in peace) had all those. I've actually thought of doing something like they did when she was alive and I've tried communicating with her at family events or in-public. I guess they're expensive because of relations with medical / health companies being complaint makes things expensive (eg. the same display but with certification to use in a medical facility would cost many times more).
I recall being a student in the biomedical electronics/biomedical devices lab and was curious about one piece of equipment that cost about ~10k EUR.
The device is relatively simple to make so I asked my teacher why were they so expensive. He said that yeah, the engineering/manufacturing side of it is about 200 EUR, the remaining 9.8k EUR is spent on certifications/paperwork.
Obviously, wages factor into this but over time I've come to see how paperwork and paying lawyers do in fact account for the majority of the cost.