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Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by jokethrowaway »

exe34 wrote: post #6
da_chicken wrote: post #2

This is not identical to my experience, but I definitely have the same problem with hobby computing. My lack of time and energy as I get older is frustrating, but also just the fact that I don't want all the hassle. I want a computer to do work in applications, not because I want to meticulously maintain and configure the operating system for a couple hours every week.

I use nixos - if an application isn't in the repos, I don't even bother anymore. really simplified system admin for me.

That's why I moved back to Arch.

Sometimes you do need that app and I'd rather use AUR vs writing Nix.

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by sillywalk »

hulitu wrote: post #126
Ferret7446 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hence the existence of Chrome OS.

> Hence the existence of Chrome OS. Which is useless besides browsing the internet.

It also runs Android apps, and has an integrated Linux VM that can be added with a click to run basically anything that runs on Debian.

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by Koshkin »

cess11 wrote: post #32
sedatk wrote: post #9

(The page isn’t accessible from Turkey. I had to enable VPN to read the article) As I understand, the author’s main motive to try alternative operating systems is his frustration with mainstream operating systems, a lack of control and understanding so the speak. The fallacy of that is that instead of encountering a few significant problems with a mainstream OS, now the author has to experience a death by thousand cu…

I refuse to do work under Windows due to the bugs, inconsistencies, driver problems and shitty default UI. For years I've just pushed in Debian with the unfree packages and let it do its hardware sensing stuff and it works, except at one job, where they had a lot of security installation and configuration in pre-made bash scripts for initial setup that were tested on Ubuntu so I used that. It was worse, mainly due to…

If I refused to do work under Windows, I'd be fired.

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

vundercind wrote: post #115
throwaway1105q wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but does anybody buy it? In my store the peripherals are covered in dust... And it's some cheap Chinese knockoff, nothing like the old high quality ones.

Yes? My company’s mostly Windows and the peripherals issued are all brand new and are all usb-a. We Mac weirdos have to dongle constantly or not use them. Even the non-Apple major brand Bluetooth wireless earbuds they issue have a usb-a plug on the end of the charging cable for the case.

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Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by johnea »

I miss it too! It's been sad to watch the whole descent of the free software movement into just another avenue for corporate profit 8-(

The original free software concept: that _users_ of s/w can develop and maintain s/w for their use (and all other user's use), thus implementing what users want/need, instead of what will makes the most money; has largely been displaced by the "open" model of getting other people to do part of your s/w dev/debug to reduce costs and increase profits.

Like all powerful technologies, in the long run it's "success" is determined primarily by how much money it can make for the already outrageously wealthy...

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by cess11 »

Koshkin wrote: post #153
cess11 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I refuse to do work under Windows due to the bugs, inconsistencies, driver problems and shitty default UI. For years I've just pushed in Debian with the unfree packages and let it do its hardware sensing stuff and it works, except at one job, where they had a lot of security installation and configuration in pre-made bash scripts for initial setup that were tested on Ubuntu so I used that. It was worse, mainly due to…

If I refused to do work under Windows, I'd be fired.

Not if you end the contract yourself, but then you might not get unemployment insurance.

Either way, my recommendation is that you prepare for an exit out of the abyssal misery that is Windows and then make the jump.

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by nequo »

hollerith wrote: post #158
nequo wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you’re an Emacs user. Then it is 100 percent.

Emacs users spend 100% of their time in a web browser?

I shouldn’t have to explain a joke[1] but yes: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html

[1] This phrase is a self-deprecating remark about my own joke making abilities, not a slight at parent.

Re: I Miss BSD/Linux

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Post by Koshkin »

ginko wrote: post #105
bozey07 wrote: post #5

> Why doesn’t a great MacBook alternative exist? I really don't get this either. Every laptop I've looked at has some wart somewhere - battery life, webcam, structural integrity, display, CPU, temperatures, speakers, IO, repairability (not that Macbooks are good here either). Some of these things aren't even hard to get right. It's like laptop manufacturers just don't care.

Why even bother with working on a laptop and not just get a proper desktop workstation PC?

It's just not a good fit for my lap.
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