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Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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You don't need any great conspiracy theory about sentient animals plotting to reclaim the seas from humanity - from what I read, modern engine-powered ships cause a lot of noise pollution which directly affects marine animals like whales. So I'm somewhat surprised they don't try to attack the things that all the annoying noise is coming from.

I mean that's not happening, so it seems like we still need the conspiracy theory.

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #38

The big issue is that we can't communicate to the orcas that this is not ok. We could very easily destroy them, but of course nobody wants to do that. You could try to spritz them with a water bottle but I suspect they wouldn't notice. Same with the rolled up newspaper trick. It would just dissolve in the water. I'm very worried about these orcas ever since I heard about them. It is probably fun for them what they ar…

We could send out this Kiwi orca body slammer haha https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/video-body-slam-orc...

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a public safety issue. Do you also realize that the working class get out on boats to fish and partake in leisure activities?

I am just going by what the article says: > For four years now, orcas have been ramming and sinking luxury yachts in European waters, and scientists have struggled to work out just why these smart Where are all these plumbers and teachers with luxury yachts going out on leisure activities? And article authors were the first one to bring in the "rich" joke with the "it's not their anticapitalist 'eat the rich' agenda"…

I personally know some of the people who were attacked by these orcas, and had to be towed to madeira as a result.

These "luxury yatches" are small, second and third hand vessels bought for less than your car is worth after a life of hard work.

It's a bit ridiculous to call people in the same socioeconomic strata as the average public school teacher as "the rich"

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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>> "In an ideal world, there would be a simple strategy for mariners to follow when killer whales interact, which would avoid vessel damage and harm to the whales. Unfortunately, there appears to be no such panacea," the authors of the study wrote. No. There is an easy answer. Stop sailing your toys through that bit of ocean. This is not an issue for commercial craft. This is about large sailboats, which are universa…

Only bald eagles

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #56
post #39

Historically orcas usually didn't mess with boats or even assisted whalers in hunts. I wonder if this was a cultural memory of the orcas about sailors (whalers at least) retaliating quite fiercely in the few instances they were being messed with and that's fading away now.

Historically it was the opposite: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/killer-whales-work-wit... - the whalers worked with the orcas and gave them some of the catch. Cooperation, not competition.

Perhaps they're just mad we stopped paying our tolls

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #66

> it's not their anticapitalist 'eat the rich' agenda This seems epistemologically quite dubious. How would we know?

They haven't eaten anybody, have they?

No, and good point, but also neither have the poor…

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #38

The big issue is that we can't communicate to the orcas that this is not ok. We could very easily destroy them, but of course nobody wants to do that. You could try to spritz them with a water bottle but I suspect they wouldn't notice. Same with the rolled up newspaper trick. It would just dissolve in the water. I'm very worried about these orcas ever since I heard about them. It is probably fun for them what they ar…

I agree with this content, but the way you put it you might actually encourage people wanting to hurt then to do it already.

You can try something similar to the newspaper trick. Electric shocks come to mind. People could rent a Killer-Whale-Taser® before setting sail Another alternative could be something they perceive as foul taste/smell

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am just going by what the article says: > For four years now, orcas have been ramming and sinking luxury yachts in European waters, and scientists have struggled to work out just why these smart Where are all these plumbers and teachers with luxury yachts going out on leisure activities? And article authors were the first one to bring in the "rich" joke with the "it's not their anticapitalist 'eat the rich' agenda"…

I personally know some of the people who were attacked by these orcas, and had to be towed to madeira as a result. These "luxury yatches" are small, second and third hand vessels bought for less than your car is worth after a life of hard work. It's a bit ridiculous to call people in the same socioeconomic strata as the average public school teacher as "the rich"

Fair enough. Well, maybe we should notify the article authors pointing out it affects not just the "luxury yachts".
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