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VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
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Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#22BYD would eat their lunch and it's not only the China government subsidies, but the pace of development. Can't beat the Chinese work ethic with German socialism and work/life balance 35 hours per week. There will be steep tariffs to keep them afloat, but the hungry chinese competitors would beat the legacy lazy ones.
Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#23From the article: “The German manufacturer plans to unveil its proposals for affordable compact EVs in 2027, it said Tuesday.” If that article is correct, it is insane that the established Western companies are going to take 3 YEARS(!) to even UNVEIL their new low-cost EV efforts.
> plans to unveil a proposal Three levels of weaseling. The chance of this being real seems pretty remote at this point.
The alternative is Tesla announcing new models this year or the next year, and then "delays" for multiple years, ending up effectively about the same.
Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
PHEV's have all the downsides of maintaining a gas vehicle, as well as much of the associated cost (and upcharge) of a BEV at this point. It's not as much maintainence as a dedicated gas vehicle, but it's still there. Realistically, I think it makes a lot more sense to have a dedicated BEV with whatever range you feel appropriate, and a dedicated gas vehicle (if needed) for road trips and longer jaunts. For the vast…
I don't own a car, so I've rented vehicles from time to time - and my experience is that (in my country at least) the vehicle rental experience is absolute trash. Would you believe that on three separate occasions I turned up to collect my (reserved and paid for) vehicle on a Friday, ready to go on a road trip, and they simply didn't have a vehicle for me?
Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> plans to unveil a proposal Three levels of weaseling. The chance of this being real seems pretty remote at this point.
Announcing something 3 years out for an automaker would be realistic. Building out the lines, all the planning and design, takes time. The alternative is Tesla announcing new models this year or the next year, and then "delays" for multiple years, ending up effectively about the same.
Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#26BYD would eat their lunch and it's not only the China government subsidies, but the pace of development. Can't beat the Chinese work ethic with German socialism and work/life balance 35 hours per week. There will be steep tariffs to keep them afloat, but the hungry chinese competitors would beat the legacy lazy ones.
Re: VW to Build €20k EVs on Its Own, Forgoing Partnerships
#27I don’t understand why it’s taking the “legacy” automakers so long to respond. This is basic Innovator’s Dilemma strategy - and yet none have a cheap EV yet?
presumably you don't get to be 'legacy' if you are big on selling cheap products