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Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by me_me_me » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

Do the go after the sail boats or is it just motorboats.

The propellers are quite loud under the water, I wonder if they are maybe annoyed by the noise and learnt attacking those vessels makes the noise go away

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by pavlov » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:11 PM UTC

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

I believe orcas can live as long as humans. So there's a bunch of middle-aged orcas out there who sometimes go:

"Remember when we all wore fish hats after Jeannie got one? Man, that was crazy... Do you think a dead salmon would look good on me still?"

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by throwaway8877 » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:11 PM UTC

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

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Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by moi2388 » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:12 PM UTC

me_me_me wrote: post #11

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

Do the go after the sail boats or is it just motorboats. The propellers are quite loud under the water, I wonder if they are maybe annoyed by the noise and learnt attacking those vessels makes the noise go away

Why wouldn’t the older ones do that, and only the males?

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by rjzzleep » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:13 PM UTC

me_me_me wrote: post #11

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

Do the go after the sail boats or is it just motorboats. The propellers are quite loud under the water, I wonder if they are maybe annoyed by the noise and learnt attacking those vessels makes the noise go away

Would have been my immediate assumption as well. Wonder if they asked that question at all

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by rjzzleep » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:16 PM UTC

moi2388 wrote: post #14

me_me_me wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do the go after the sail boats or is it just motorboats. The propellers are quite loud under the water, I wonder if they are maybe annoyed by the noise and learnt attacking those vessels makes the noise go away

Why wouldn’t the older ones do that, and only the males?

I recently learned that blue light is 50% stronger in interfering with melatonin generation in toddlers versus adults. I’m a lot more sensitive to noise than my father is and my daughter is even more sensitive, she’ll start screaming when people are too loud.

Not saying that is the reason, but your question is addressing something quite common in different scenarios.

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by 29athrowaway » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:20 PM UTC

Maybe because sonar is annoying as hell for cetaceans and makes their ears bleed?

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by rovr138 » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:23 PM UTC

throwaway8877 wrote: post #13

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

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I think we are the ones finding out

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by rdtsc » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:27 PM UTC

>But, sadly, it's not their anticapitalist 'eat the rich' agenda

> Following years of research, a team of biologists, government officials and marine industry representatives have released their findings

Nevertheless, the "rich" quickly mobilized with a full on multi-year research team alongside government officials, with decent funding to fix the problem. Out of all the current global and local problems, can't have expensive yachts damaged.

Re: Free time, curiosity and playfulness has led to young orcas bumping boats

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Post by gibsonf1 » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

me_me_me wrote: post #11

lioeters wrote: post #7

> The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young orcas adopting this 'trend' of boat-bumping.. > Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens..suggesting that what started as playful head-bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger..And no orca over the age of 25 – when males are fully grown – has been seen participating in the tomfool…

Do the go after the sail boats or is it just motorboats. The propellers are quite loud under the water, I wonder if they are maybe annoyed by the noise and learnt attacking those vessels makes the noise go away

Being a sailor, I've been carefully paying attention to the Orca reports, they seem to like the modern sail boat fin rudders which have no skeg (vertical support attached to hull with hinged rudder behind) and is pretty easy to knock off the boat with little damage to the Orca. I heard about a boat with a skeg-hung rudder that stopped dead in the water in that area, but was able to continue on with a working rudder. When hauled out later, the hinge mount of the rudder had been twisted quite a bit off the skeg, so that Orca got a headache, and decided to move on.