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Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Related: I tried to use Github Codespaces (Visual Studio in cloud) on iPad with a keyboard, using a browser. It works very well, in theory. There is only a slight deal breaker bug. Safari does not properly support clipboard. So copy-paste does not work. It should be very simple to fix as Chrome, Firefox, do on desktop if Safari would care more about web standards. Also you cannot install any other browser in iPad tha…

Can you describe the issue with copy/pasting in Safari? What is not supported exactly?

- Terminal copy-paste

- File tree copy-paste

Other issues include

- Scrolling Jupyter notebooks

It does not help to install as a Progressive Web App, as bugs are still present.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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post #23

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Are you going to bring your Smart TV and PS5 for VSCoding anywhere and anytime?

There are many people who can’t afford to buy both a computer and a PS5 and some of them choose to buy PS5. Would be nice to let those people use the PS5 hardware for what it is really capable of, including being able to run a desktop OS on it.

The number of people who can so barely afford a PS5 that they can’t also afford a computer (these are a hell of a lot cheaper than a PS5), but are willing to screw with their PS5 in ways likely to mess it up in one way or another (if only making gaming impossible without further tinkering) is approximately zero.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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I agree, but we should also make restrictions on smart TVs and gaming consoles illegal too. Both the Xbox and PS5 are 100% commodity hardware, not being able to run our own software on it is a really weird limitation. One that people even on HN have accepted while simultaneously ragging on Apple's "walled garden".

But you know these restrictions when you buy the device. Same with the Apple ecosystem. So why make it illegal?

Depends on your views about anti-trust applied to the phone and tablet markets.

The Biden administration opened a wide ranging anti-trust suit against Apple. Will see what comes of it.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Can you describe the issue with copy/pasting in Safari? What is not supported exactly?

- Terminal copy-paste - File tree copy-paste Other issues include - Scrolling Jupyter notebooks It does not help to install as a Progressive Web App, as bugs are still present.

I just tested copy-paste in terminal and file tree, on an iPad, using Github Code spaces, in safari, and it worked fine.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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post #10

Hate to be that guy, but Samsung DeX is a much closer vision to a "Mobile device that doubles as a usable computer" than an iPad has proven to be since it launched 14 years ago. Especially if you get one of the Z Fold devices. It's a phone, a small tablet and a pluggable computer - all in one. Has had great terminal support for the past decade through Termux and can even run Emacs!

Do people use DeX as an all-in-one (esp. for development)? I played with it for a bit on my wife's phone and it seemed very cool, but I couldn't tell how useful it would be as a daily driver.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

#97

Related: I tried to use Github Codespaces (Visual Studio in cloud) on iPad with a keyboard, using a browser. It works very well, in theory. There is only a slight deal breaker bug. Safari does not properly support clipboard. So copy-paste does not work. It should be very simple to fix as Chrome, Firefox, do on desktop if Safari would care more about web standards. Also you cannot install any other browser in iPad tha…

Safari does properly support the clipboard. I used it, right here on my phone to copy and paste: > if Safari would care more about web standards Which web standard or standards are you referring to exactly?

> Which web standard or standards are you referring to exactly?

To the standard of Safari being considered the new Internet Explorer by the general public, so anything that goes wrong online is automatically Safari's fault

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Can you describe the issue with copy/pasting in Safari? What is not supported exactly?

- Terminal copy-paste - File tree copy-paste Other issues include - Scrolling Jupyter notebooks It does not help to install as a Progressive Web App, as bugs are still present.

I am not interested in the issues you have with those webapps. I am asking what are the bugs of Safari's implementation of the Clipboard API, since in my experience there are none (except maybe https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222262 if you want to consider it a bug and not a different interpretation of the specs).

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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post #87
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Okay. I feel like the generative power of the iPad has improved again.

It's a clever scheme, really: Ship a device that is technically more powerful than many laptops, but artificially limit the OS's capabilities in pretty drastic ways, then lift the limitations bit by bit. Is there a name for the inverse of boiling the frog?

Yes, it's called "Defrosting the Penguin." Slowly thawing out that Linux potential!
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