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Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by silverquiet »

jvans wrote: post #26
donatj wrote: post #10

I am old enough that I still remember people including myself being perplexed why s3 didn't ship with an FTP adapter. They FINALLY added the option in 2020, 14 years late. I do think the storage "space" could use some disruption. I use s3 every day at work, and my general feeling is that the entire permission system is more complicated than 99% of apps actually need, to the point of being dangerous; I think the compl…

This is classic feature bloat of a product that's been around for a while. Some customer wants a really niche feature so product adds a new option for it. It's just one new option so the experience isn't that different. Rinse and repeat hundreds of times and nobody stops the think of the cumulative effect on the 99% of customers who don't need those features.

I was going to say that the cloud now has to be all things to all people; it feels like a reason that products cycle in and out of fashion. I'm not a heavy cloud user, but in my memory, AWS was extremely simplistic back when it debuted - it was a few core services and lacked a lot of features enterprises required which in my mind gave it a sort of "toy" quality I think and was one of the reasons I was a bit of a cloud skeptic. The "S" in a lot of AWS services (to include one of the "S"'s in S3) actually stands for simple, but clearly things have moved on a bit.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by spacebanana7 »

djtango wrote: post #21
spacebanana7 wrote: post #18

This seems like a great idea. I've come to think the UX requirements of enterprise and indie dev / start up customers are fundamentally incompatible in the cloud. As an enterprise I want to be able to set restrictions at the org, project, team and resource level for various compliance rules. And I want these rules to be restrictive by default (e.g block public access). However as an individual developer the mere exis…

Isn't that why Heroku exists?

Yeah - Heroku, Firebase, Supabase etc all target these kind of smaller customers.

The nice thing about this service is that it seems to be public first. Which reduces the user effort involved in managing a permissions layer on top of storage.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by kevsim »

WolfOliver wrote: post #27

looking at the code side by side example: FILE0 does not provide authentication!? Everybody can upload files?

Guessing it reads some credentials out of environment variables. The client side example shows the server issuing a token so I guess it's only the server that has/needs the credentials.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by renegade-otter »

jvans wrote: post #26
donatj wrote: post #10

I am old enough that I still remember people including myself being perplexed why s3 didn't ship with an FTP adapter. They FINALLY added the option in 2020, 14 years late. I do think the storage "space" could use some disruption. I use s3 every day at work, and my general feeling is that the entire permission system is more complicated than 99% of apps actually need, to the point of being dangerous; I think the compl…

This is classic feature bloat of a product that's been around for a while. Some customer wants a really niche feature so product adds a new option for it. It's just one new option so the experience isn't that different. Rinse and repeat hundreds of times and nobody stops the think of the cumulative effect on the 99% of customers who don't need those features.

This is true for all of Amazon's products. They enshitified everything by being beholden to never-ending customer requests for more fine knobs. Their products have a serious "let's just bolt this on" vibe. There is no theme or reason to it.

AWS went from "just push a couple of buttons and you are running in the cloud without a dedicated sys admin" to "you are going to have to hire a team of cloud admins because no one understands all the options and costs anymore".

Compare AWS to DigitalOcean, for example - the difference in simplicity is mind-blowing.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by fayazara »

ankit84 wrote: post #12

It isn't just developer experience. - Can I trust you? - Where are your company credentials? - What's the business continuity plan? - What's your support? Sending an email to hi@ may not work, when my application is dead because of some bug at your end.

Everyday I am more convinced that open sourcing developer products makes more sense than ever, if a service is very critical and something breaks, you just jump in and fix it yoursef.

Nevertheless, its nice seeing crappy aws products getting fixed.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by grose »

Webpage looks great. Love the simple design with code examples front and center. I don't think it's fair to call the pricing transparent but hide it behind a sales gate. API looks nice, maybe a public page with API documentation would help. npm package is lightweight which is refreshing to see. Backend seems to be Cloudflare R2.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by ldoughty »

WolfOliver wrote: post #27

looking at the code side by side example: FILE0 does not provide authentication!? Everybody can upload files?

Agreed. The demo highlights "extra" AWS code for authz + authn, but doesn't explain how f0 doesn't need it... Does the server need to set an ENV? You could argue that's no different then one AWS auth method.

This looks like an interesting product, but it's missing some key technical details to woo engineers -- both how it's done and how reliable the CDN+service is.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by davidkarolyi »

forgotmypwlol wrote: post #11

This looks like exactly what I’ve wanted on more than one occasion. I hope it sticks around.

Good to hear! Initially I built it for myself without the intention to publish, but good to hear I'm not the only one has big-cloud provider fatigue.
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