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Re: WP21

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Post by Helmut10001 »

thisisjaymehta wrote: post #5

To be honest, I never found WordPress easy to use. It's all flowers and rainbows as long as I can find good themes and plugins. However, it starts going south as soon as I need to make a very small custom change.

Initial setup of wordpress is super easy, but it gets very hard to maintain after a while. Updates require manual intervention, themes must be fixed, plugins deprecate. All of this adds a burden I am not willing to accept, which is why I moved all my sites to Hugo/Jekyll/Mkdocs (etc.) since about 2017.

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Post by stevesearer »

Would be interested to hear other people’s favorite paid WordPress plugins.

A couple essential ones for me are Advanced Custom Fields Pro and Admin Columns Pro.

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Post by nikolay »

henning wrote: post #10

WordPress is proof that clean code doesn't matter. Security doesn't matter. Out of the box performance doesn't matter. At least none of these matter if you are the 800 lb gorilla in the market and everyone else is trying to take a piece out of you.

The only things that matter are a decent admin UI and the illusion of choice of free plugins - most plugins are useless in 2024 because they have a pro version. When you add up the annual costs of all pro versions, the "free" WordPress (which requires a beefy hosting plan) becomes the most expensive and hardest to keep up publishing system nowadays!

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Post by ssalat »

Quick judgments and strong opinions have unfortunately become part of the community.

Having spent the last 2-3 months working excessively on WordPress development, I would like to say a word about the excellent isolation of code with blocks ("Gutenberg"). As standalone plugins or in combination with Advanced Custom Fields, these allow for perfect, modular websites and development flows (design system), where even the HTML is 100% in your own hands. I can recommend everyone to understand and learn WordPress properly.

– no relation or connection to WordPress.

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Post by nikolay »

dotcoma wrote: post #15

> 1. Simple things should be easy and intuitive, and complex things possible. Yeah. Like, for example, forcing users to install the "Classic Editor" plugin to use, well, a normal editor that is more than sufficient for a blog.

Or one plugin no working with another and having to try all permutations to see which breaks which - that's simple and intuitive!

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Post by jaydeegee »

WP is the perfect tool for 95% of the job with the last 5% of tweaking being incredibly frustrating. I've used it extensively and it's longevity is a testament to its usefulness may it be around for another 21yrs.

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Post by todotask »

No matter how long it has been, on the one hand, WordPress can be seen as a victim of its success, as widespread adoption has led to various challenges such as security vulnerabilities and performance issues after maintining clients' website for the past 3 years. There are remaining security that is essentials and yet not many website does it correctly.

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Post by MangoCoffee »

henning wrote: post #10

WordPress is proof that clean code doesn't matter. Security doesn't matter. Out of the box performance doesn't matter. At least none of these matter if you are the 800 lb gorilla in the market and everyone else is trying to take a piece out of you.

>if you are the 800 lb gorilla in the market

but it didn't start out as an 800 lb gorilla. Simply saying it's an 800 lb gorilla in the room is lazy.

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Post by MangoCoffee »

WP is 21 years old, and people on HN still bishing and crying about it. How come no one has offered something that can beat WP in 21 years?
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