WP21

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Post by joshbetz » Tue, May 28, 2024, 2:40 AM UTC

WP21
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#2

Post by firefoxd » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:31 AM UTC

Wordpress is the SMS of the Internet. There are hundreds of alternatives that came and went.

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Post by Swizec » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:35 AM UTC

WordPress is my favorite example of "It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to work"

So many cool projects die because people over-complicate the first steps. You can always make it better later if people start using your thing, but first you gotta ship.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:39 AM UTC

firefoxd wrote: post #2

Wordpress is the SMS of the Internet. There are hundreds of alternatives that came and went.

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Post by thisisjaymehta » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:47 AM UTC

To be honest, I never found WordPress easy to use. It's all flowers and rainbows as long as I can find good themes and plugins. However, it starts going south as soon as I need to make a very small custom change.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:56 AM UTC

thisisjaymehta wrote: post #5

To be honest, I never found WordPress easy to use. It's all flowers and rainbows as long as I can find good themes and plugins. However, it starts going south as soon as I need to make a very small custom change.

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Post by muglug » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:58 AM UTC

In a vertical where the barrier to entry is not high, being first to market with something simple that people can extend can create a decent-sized moat.

The downside is that much of the code in WP core is effectively un-modernizable, given how much depends on things working a certain way. Key classes and functions haven’t been meaningfully updated in over a decade.

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:59 AM UTC

thisisjaymehta wrote: post #5

To be honest, I never found WordPress easy to use. It's all flowers and rainbows as long as I can find good themes and plugins. However, it starts going south as soon as I need to make a very small custom change.

I've always considered myself an above average web developer, my friends would always have Wordpress websites, and ask me if I can just tweak a few things.

Without hesitation, I'd proclaim I could easily make those changes!

Then I'd load their site, load their plugin/theme code and css files, struggle for hours to get the desired effect, and even if I got it to work, I would break every other part of their site.

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Denigrating anecdote aside, good job Matt, loved the story at the end.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:01 AM UTC

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Post by henning » Tue, May 28, 2024, 4:09 AM UTC

WordPress is proof that clean code doesn't matter. Security doesn't matter. Out of the box performance doesn't matter. At least none of these matter if you are the 800 lb gorilla in the market and everyone else is trying to take a piece out of you.