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Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by sva_ »

somenameforme wrote: post #24
Simon_ORourke wrote: post #4

Why, what's the point in doing such nonsense? Unless it's someone with lots of money, contacts in the dark web, and some historic Barbara Streisand type chip on the shoulder.

DDOS attacks are dirt cheap and can be contracted from large professional sites offering customer support and the works. The largest one taken down had hundreds of thousands of users, and had carried out some 4 million attacks, for prices starting at $14.99/month. [1] So in other words, anybody can carry out a DDOS for basically no cost. So trying to analyze the purpose, let alone suspects, is probably not going to b…

And they're curiously usually protected by Cloudflare.

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

Simon_ORourke wrote: post #4

Why, what's the point in doing such nonsense? Unless it's someone with lots of money, contacts in the dark web, and some historic Barbara Streisand type chip on the shoulder.

There are some very bad very shitty people about, just trying to make earth worse.

Npm has been under pretty severe attack for ~6 weeks now. I forget who else.

The scariest thing to me is what we might do in the face of persistent online attacks. If this stuff gets rolled up into western nations rolling back privacy & liberty? That's an theonion.com "bin laden plan to sit back and enjoy collapse" situation. Freak out & let cyber security paranoia reign & destroy free communication & connection.

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by ziddoap »

sva_ wrote: post #71
somenameforme wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDOS attacks are dirt cheap and can be contracted from large professional sites offering customer support and the works. The largest one taken down had hundreds of thousands of users, and had carried out some 4 million attacks, for prices starting at $14.99/month. [1] So in other words, anybody can carry out a DDOS for basically no cost. So trying to analyze the purpose, let alone suspects, is probably not going to b…

And they're curiously usually protected by Cloudflare.

What makes that curious?

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

#74

Post by krapp »

Simon_ORourke wrote: post #4

Why, what's the point in doing such nonsense? Unless it's someone with lots of money, contacts in the dark web, and some historic Barbara Streisand type chip on the shoulder.

Seriously? People do this shit for fun. There used to be a program (LOIC) popular on 4chan used for DDoS attacks all the time, it's the origin of the "firin mah lazer" meme.

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

#75

Post by user_7832 »

ai_what wrote: post #35
sirtaj wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The user you're responding to is Jason Scott of TIA.

Oh sorry, I guess that makes it a very detailed and well though-out response.

> Don't be snarky.

Also from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

#76

Post by matsemann »

sirtaj wrote: post #31
ai_what wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please don't post shallow dismissals https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The user you're responding to is Jason Scott of TIA.

What's the significance of that?

(Googling "Jason Scott TIA" gives me "Dr Jason Scott is a Senior Research Fellow in the Tasmanian Institute of Agriculture" which doesn't explain much to me)

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by neurostimulant »

sva_ wrote: post #71
somenameforme wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDOS attacks are dirt cheap and can be contracted from large professional sites offering customer support and the works. The largest one taken down had hundreds of thousands of users, and had carried out some 4 million attacks, for prices starting at $14.99/month. [1] So in other words, anybody can carry out a DDOS for basically no cost. So trying to analyze the purpose, let alone suspects, is probably not going to b…

And they're curiously usually protected by Cloudflare.

Doubt cloudflare has anything to do with it. The operators most likely don't want to openly expose their website's ip addresses.

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by hnthrowaway0328 »

jedberg wrote: post #60
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But wouldn't they need to telegraph the attack in advance to customers? Taking credit after the fact is risky as many competitors will also take credit

Yes, that is part of it. They tell potential clients, "On May 27th, I'm going to take down the Internet Archive". Then they do it, and then go back to their clients and say, "now that you've seen my work, do you want to pay me?".

I wonder where we can find a middleman for that kind of service. Criminal groups would be pretty stupid not paying a middleman to do the checks and filtering.

Re: The Internet Archive is under a DDoS attack

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Post by ziddoap »

matsemann wrote: post #76
sirtaj wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The user you're responding to is Jason Scott of TIA.

What's the significance of that? (Googling "Jason Scott TIA" gives me "Dr Jason Scott is a Senior Research Fellow in the Tasmanian Institute of Agriculture" which doesn't explain much to me)

The beauty of acronyms/initialisms that people are too lazy to spell out!

TIA = The Internet Archive (i.e. the victim of the DDoS).

>The user you're responding to is Jason Scott of The Internet Archive

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