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Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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I used to hear the remote from TVs especially old Philips ones and LG's with the single chip on them. That was until I hit 44... after that is hit or miss or just imagining.

But weren't old remotes all IR?

No, not all were IR.

But all of them made by "LG" and featuring a single-chip design are either IR or RF.

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I record all meetings locally regardless of the tool with OBS. But that is only useful to me as I don't ask for authorization and not sharing them. It is only because I know my mind will sometimes drift and I want to be able to replay part of the meeting. Having said that, so many people don't record meeting I or someone else can't attend. This is annoying. It should be automatized so that if you miss part or all of…

That's a great idea to record locally. Do you keep a deep history or wipe after 30/90/365 days? Do you need any special hardware for it? My memory is not great. I'm starting to have more calls with clients and it would be great to have a record rather than trying to take notes and conduct a conversation at the same time. > It should be automatized so that if you miss part or all of a meeting you can still watch the r…

> That's a great idea to record locally. Do you keep a deep history or wipe after 30/90/365 days? Do you need any special hardware for it?

If there is anything I want to keep, I will usually take notes but sometimes I cut the small part I need and store it in a special folder. I just wipe once in a while the main "obs" directory, every other week or so. if I haven't felt the need to play back a video, I doubt it will in the future so I don't keep a lot of retention, it is pretty much only to help me when I am getting distracted or multitasking during a meeting. Most of the time when I feel the need to play back the video, it is immediately after the meeting because I know something important had been said but wasn't 100% focused and want to be sure I haven't missed anything.

But I don't have lots of meeting, a handful a week usually. I don't need special hardware, obs seems to be heavily multithreaded. It might hurt the battery usage if I am not plugged but no core is going very high in term of cpu and I don't feel any slowness. I am recording in the 2500/160kbps veryfast(medium CPU usage, standard quality) setting at 1080p, it takes like 1MB every 3 seconds.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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I assume that if speakers are not set too loud then either you're close and the algorithm works or you're far and sound is quiet enough that it's not an issue.

If the speakers are not set too loud, you don't need the algorithm at all.

If you're sitting next to each other with regular volume then clearly you do, with the same volume, but across a room it's probably going to be ok.

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Pretty sure literally all of them do, but generally only full duplex . Not triplex or quadruplex etc. In other words, if you're having a 1-1 video call, both of you have your audio working at all times. But as you go to 3, 4, 5, 10, 20 participants, it generally continues to be just max 2 simultaneous audio streams, determined by whoever has been the loudest recently. Unless you turn on special features like music mo…

Last N audio with N about 3 is pretty common. That might be you and three others, or three speakers including you. Beyond that isn't very common, because a) it's not very useful, and b) Google's WebRTC software (which is commonly embedded elsewhere) would only decode three audio streams anyway.

They changed that recently and removed the restriction that capped playing of 3 audio streams.

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I record all meetings locally regardless of the tool with OBS. But that is only useful to me as I don't ask for authorization and not sharing them. It is only because I know my mind will sometimes drift and I want to be able to replay part of the meeting. Having said that, so many people don't record meeting I or someone else can't attend. This is annoying. It should be automatized so that if you miss part or all of…

That's a great idea to record locally. Do you keep a deep history or wipe after 30/90/365 days? Do you need any special hardware for it? My memory is not great. I'm starting to have more calls with clients and it would be great to have a record rather than trying to take notes and conduct a conversation at the same time. > It should be automatized so that if you miss part or all of a meeting you can still watch the r…

Recording meetings with OBS is pretty simple.

The process is exactly like that of streaming a computer game along with local microphone audio, except one pushes the "Start Recording" button instead of the "Start Streaming" button inside of OBS. There's got to be a million (or more) howtos written on the subject.

Hardware-wise, it's pretty straight forward: GPUs (including the ones that are a part of most non-Xeon Intel CPUs) have been up to the task of realtime video compression for around a decade or maybe more, which allows for the heavy lifting to be done in specialized silicon.

A bigger concern than the technical practicality might be legal concerns that generally surround audio recording.

For instance: In my state, I am permitted to record any conversation that I am a participant in -- I don't need permission from anyone but myself, and I don't need to notify anyone.

But in the US alone, there's also 49 other states worth of laws on the subject, and they can vary quite a lot.

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The organisation I worked at used Meet until someone from Microsoft convinced them to use Teams. Such a nightmare. Quality of meetings went downhill and employees were penalised for secretly using Meet for ad hoc meetings.

I think we are technically supposed to use Zoom at my employer, but almost everyone (at least in eng) just uses Meet instead. The UX is so much better, and it's rarer that something isn't working with someone's setup. Also I swear the audio latency is worse with Zoom -- I find myself accidentally interrupting people more often.

I have never received a meet invite from someone that isn’t required to use it by their organization.

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I think because Meet is fully browser based, some of the features like sharing audio with screen are only available via chrome or chromium based browsers -- definitely not on Firefox in my own testing. I don't know the exact reason for that, but it's kind of sad.

I use Firefox with Meet to screen share and talk all the time. Perhaps you mean it didn't use the GPU until recently.

I meant sharing audio from your computer, e.g. if you have a YouTube video playing.

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Most adults can’t hear > 18kHz. Related, there are devices you can buy to repel teenagers: https://www.today.com/news/controversial-mosquito-sonic-devi...

These are everywhere in Japan as anti loitering devices

i wonder if that is what those super irritating high-pitched screeching noises near some buildings in shibuya...

it seems to occur only late at night but could be wrong... i had assumed they were for driving rodents away but i guess not?

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Docs has a few big shortcomings in my experience. Like it can’t number headings and figures, and cross-reference to them.

What do you mean cross-reference to them? You can link to any heading. Just place your cursor on the heading and the page URL will update. You can then link to that either from within the document or externally.

You can’t write “see Figure 2 in Section 1.2.3” and have those numbers update automatically. This is used everywhere in academia and technical reports.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Meet, to me, is the perfect balance of functionality and simplicity (as an end user). And features like this only make that more apparent. Zoom and Teams always frustrate me, even though they're what I use far more often. It's too bad that video conferencing is largely a game of who has the most boxes checked - IT admins and A/V folk are the ones that need to be convinced, and Meet just doesn't ...meet... their needs

What aspects of Zoom and Teams are frustrating for you?
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