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Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Back when they were pushing public literacy, reading books was disparaged as a morbid activity. (Sitting unmoving for a long time, staring...) But now everybody does it.

That doesn’t sound surprising in light of people setting obtuse goals like reading N books per week/month/year.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39542192 Tattoos indeed are known to cause cancer among other health complications.

Your linked evidence doesn't support what you say. There are plenty of examples of concerning ingredients turning up in tattoo inks (a recent study found many inks have unlisted and potentially harmful chemicals[1]). This is obviously not good, but it falls far short of "causing" anything in particular. It's similar to all the warnings in CA about "chemicals known to cause cancer" - unless you would also say something like "putting gas in your car is known to cause cancer." Tattoos are not known to cause cancer and the articles you link don't claim they are.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39542567

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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If the correlation is proven true then that’s obviously terrible, but I’m in my mid 40s now, tattoo-less, and one of my biggest regrets is not getting a couple tattoos when I was younger. I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing. I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

I'm almost out of my 40s and I definitely support you in doing whatever you like and not overthinking the midlife crisis thing. That said, if I had the inkling (pun intended) to get a tattoo I would actually wait until this lymphoma association is verified, because if if it turns to be real, and then I get a lymphoma, I would feel very stupid. But then again, people smoke and do a lot of things that are objectively b…

If there is a link, I'd guess you're probably a lot safer getting tattooed at 50 than at 20 given you've (statistically) got much less time for any adverse effects to start showing up...

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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If the correlation is proven true then that’s obviously terrible, but I’m in my mid 40s now, tattoo-less, and one of my biggest regrets is not getting a couple tattoos when I was younger. I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing. I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

You should do what you want.

That said, my friend with the most tattoos, basically every part of his body, arms, legs. Maybe his face and head don't have tattoos. When I told him I was thinking about getting one he told me "don't do it".

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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If the correlation is proven true then that’s obviously terrible, but I’m in my mid 40s now, tattoo-less, and one of my biggest regrets is not getting a couple tattoos when I was younger. I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing. I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

I got my first at 42, I've only ever gotten positive comments. Except from my buddy who is a tattoo artist, he was upset he didn't get to give me my first one.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Hair dyes would have similar absorption mechanism right?

Hair is dead, skin is not. Your body doesn't care about what you do to your hair, you can cut it, dye it, anything as long as it doesn't touch the root. Tattoos are about injecting a foreign substance in live tissue, which triggers an immune response, and that's what the article is about. There is a reason tattoos hurt and haircuts don't.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I believe cancer from hair dyes was caused by touching dye during application. Poisons are volatile, dye is only toxic, while it is drying. Tattoo pigment particles are quite inert.

How do you know they are inert? The ingredients are mostly unstudied and unregulated.

If they weren't (mostly) inert, I guess they would do a poor job at staying in place, which is the whole point of tattoos.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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If the correlation is proven true then that’s obviously terrible, but I’m in my mid 40s now, tattoo-less, and one of my biggest regrets is not getting a couple tattoos when I was younger. I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing. I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

Midlife is when everyone starts doing cool stuff because theyve built up the income to service it Do whatever you like, it’s your life

Midlife is when everyone starts doing cool stuff because that's when the prefrontal cortex that inhibited you starts really breaking down.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Genetic predispositions, obesity and a lot of other factors also play a role in the risk of developing lymphoma.

From the article: "we found that the risk of developing lymphoma was 21 percent higher among those who were tattooed"

Let's put this number into context, because "percent of increased risk" is always something I struggle to picture"

"Overall, the chance that a man will develop NHL in his lifetime is about 1 in 42; for a woman, the risk is about 1 in 52." [1]

So the overall risk is ~2 %. That means getting a tattoo will bring your overall risk of developing NHL from 2 % to 2.5 % instead.

[1] https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/non-hodgkin-lymphoma/abo...

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