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What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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Sure, but that also makes it an ideal cover story too.

Why would the russians care to have a cover story? They're in an open hot war with the west.

If there was an open hot war, would US congress debate for months whether to approve the military package to Ukraine?

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I don’t think people actually understand refrigerators any better than cellphones which are 41 years old at this point. Create some story about the “hum” of an air compressor being linked to declining birth rates or whatever and someone will believe it. Keep harping on it long enough and it goes from a fringe idea to vaguely plausible surprisingly quickly. Just look at the Anti Vax movement and those are well over 20…

The number of people that understand the details of how a refrigerator works is orders of magnitude higher than the number of people the really understand everything about cellphone technology. But yeah, the hum is not pleasant, has that been studied? ;) I feel like for something to stick there does need to be more than that. But who knows, give it a try and see! If you look at the common conspiracies they seem to ta…

> understand the details… really understand everything

That’s two different standards, and only relevant if either of them was a significant percentage of total population. Most people don’t even understand why a refrigerator door gets briefly stuck after you close it. It’s practically a magic box that gets cold which is perhaps why they fall for conspiracy theories so readily, any explanation is equally plausible.

And sure at a high level I understand both, but to really understand a refrigerator the same way you would need to really understand 5G etc, you would need to know the actual pressures involved etc. People don’t know the chemical properties and makeup of the refrigerant. What’s the acceptable impurity levels. What lubricants are in use, etc. The physical geometry of all the mechanical parts and so forth.

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That's what trawling is . . . it is completely normally for a trawler to go back and forth like that.

But not over a cable. Submarine cables are clearly marked on nautical charts, and even recreational boaters know not to anchor in those areas. A professional trawler captain is not going to accidentally trawl over such an area.

Fishers are infamous for flaunting the rules though. I think we can only judge this if we see records of other ships in the area.

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What kind of international law can we expect in the future? A law that is constantly broken by various maleficent actors? Of course we've heard them complain that the current order is run by the west and harmful to others. What are the alternatives? A hundred cables?

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Is it possible to tap fiber-optic cables without the owner getting wise? Even if you could tap modern cables, I assume everything is now encrypted and carries so much bandwidth that it becomes possible to sample the interesting intelligence.

It certainly has been the case in the past (when undersea fiber operators were much less careful) that cables have been tapped without the owner getting wise. IIUC the method used in the past was to bring the cable inside a submarine which has a specialized fiber cleaving and joining machine. Some amount of full transmission loss already occurs, so to the operator is just looks like blip. Here's a description of an e…

Google's Grace Hopper cable lands right next to GCHQ Bude, which has an NSA listening station. They don't even need to be subtle about it.

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Just in case why people are wondering why cutting of internet for an arctic island is a big deal. What many might not know is that Svalbard is home to the northernmost satellite station in the world. It is just one of two stations that can communicate with polar orbiting satellites each day. ESA and NASA as well as other civilian organisations are present there, and the station communicates with well over a hundred s…

Time for a Starlink backup then

That's not how satellites work.

Re: What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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Just in case why people are wondering why cutting of internet for an arctic island is a big deal. What many might not know is that Svalbard is home to the northernmost satellite station in the world. It is just one of two stations that can communicate with polar orbiting satellites each day. ESA and NASA as well as other civilian organisations are present there, and the station communicates with well over a hundred s…

Time for a Starlink backup then

Its the groundstation that needs backing up and the location is surrounded by the sea.
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