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What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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> The current is used to amplify the fibre optic signals that flow through the 1300km long cables between the peninsula and the Norwegian mainland. This is magic to me. Anyone have a search term I could use to better understand how electricity is used to boost a fibre optic signal?

It's a optic to electronic device that is embedded in the cable, which is powered by electricity (but I think the tech was improved, see my last link). It's mentioned here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable... with more detail here https://hackaday.com/2023/08/08/under-the-sea-optical-repeat... and pictures here: https://hackaday.com/2023/08/08/under-the-sea-optical-repeat... (IIUC those are inside of the ship laying or repairing the fiber,a nd they normally live on the ocean floor) and tons of photos of the process of laying cable: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-facebook-giant-unders...

However I think there are also fully passive repeaters- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_amplifier

Re: What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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TLDR; it probably wasn't the russians, most likely a trawler.

"NRK has previously reported how a Russian trawler crossed the Svalbad cable more than 140 times, and more than a dozen times before the damage occurred in January 2022. The shipowners have denied having anything to do with the damage." The norwegians seem to think it was a russian trawler and that trawler doesn't exclude the possiblity that russians did it.

Yeah the Russians also used "trawlers" to hide their recovery operations of KAL007 to hide their mass murder.

Trawler does not mean unintentional or not state related.

Re: What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The optical signal repeaters that are part of the cable every N kilometers need power to do their job.

Ohh there’s physical electronic repeaters. Okay. I thought this was some sort of electromagnetism witchcraft.

It’s all witchcraft anyway. I’m not sure what they use exactly, but even photodiodes are pure witchcraft.

Re: What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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TLDR; it probably wasn't the russians, most likely a trawler.

This article details how certain russian trawlers criss-crossed a lot over another cable in Norway that broke some time before...

...and then the same trawlers were in the vicinity of this cable in Svalbard when another trawler criss-crossed over it until it broke

(In Norwegian but hopefully Google Translate will do an OK job and mainly graphics)

https://www.nrk.no/nordland/xl/russiske-tralere-krysset-kabl...

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post #18

TLDR; it probably wasn't the russians, most likely a trawler.

This article details how certain russian trawlers criss-crossed a lot over another cable in Norway that broke some time before... ...and then the same trawlers were in the vicinity of this cable in Svalbard when another trawler criss-crossed over it until it broke (In Norwegian but hopefully Google Translate will do an OK job and mainly graphics) https://www.nrk.no/nordland/xl/russiske-tralere-krysset-kabl...

Criss crossing is quite normal behavior btw. I see it all the time here at the North Sea near England.

Re: What the damaged Svalbard cable looked like

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Had a case in Canada where a fisherman ignored the maps and kept picking up a fibre optic line with their fishing gear, and eventually cut it with a saw (twice):

(I suspect it was a short-haul line, so carried no electricity for amplifiers)

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2011/2011fc494/2011fc49...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peracomo_Inc_v_TELUS_Communica...

> In 2005, however, he managed to pull up the Sunoque I. He did not know what it was but managed to free his anchor

> The next year, he again hooked an anchor on the Sunoque I. This time he was able to haul it out of the water and secure it on deck. He made no effort to free it. He deliberately cut the cable in two with an electric saw. A few days later the same thing happened. This time it was much easier to haul the cable out, and he cut it again.

> Some weeks later, after the fishing season, while on the dock at Baie-Comeau he noticed a strange looking ship in the area where he usually fished. Later, he saw a photo of the ship in the local newspaper. The accompanying article stated that the cable had been deliberately cut and a search was on for the culprit.

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