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Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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I just exited my startup and now work for a much bigger company. I'm going from a Google-based productivity stack to a Microsoft one, and so far Teams is the worst and best change. Google Meet was fantastic for "just working" especially for less sophisticated meeting guests. The only time Meet didn't work is when corporate IT departments at customers actively blocked Meet so their minions used the "approved meeting s…

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Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Meet, to me, is the perfect balance of functionality and simplicity (as an end user). And features like this only make that more apparent. Zoom and Teams always frustrate me, even though they're what I use far more often. It's too bad that video conferencing is largely a game of who has the most boxes checked - IT admins and A/V folk are the ones that need to be convinced, and Meet just doesn't ...meet... their needs

As an "IT admin", it's not that I need convincing. It's that the rest of Googles "office" products are absolute amateur hour and support is non-existent.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Meet, to me, is the perfect balance of functionality and simplicity (as an end user). And features like this only make that more apparent. Zoom and Teams always frustrate me, even though they're what I use far more often. It's too bad that video conferencing is largely a game of who has the most boxes checked - IT admins and A/V folk are the ones that need to be convinced, and Meet just doesn't ...meet... their needs

Meet frustrates me immensely because I can't just fullscreen someone sharing an HD screen onto my HD screen and get 1:1 pixels with an overlay of faces (like Zoom does). Instead, I have to either not be able to read small text, or awkwardly pan in the recently-added "zoom" view.

You get near full screen watching a shared screen with Meets with these steps:

1. change Meets call layout to one video (presentation) only, disabling participant watching

2. press F11 to make browser go full screen

3. press Ctrl+Minus multiple times to decrease UI elements which makes the shared video near full screen

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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This isn't an area where simplicity wins. Zoom is targeted more towards professional use whereas Meet is more for casual or social use. It doesn't really support multiple displays, like I can't watch screen sharing on one display while moving the chat and video windows off to another display. Scaling options for screen sharing are inadequate and it doesn't even support real full screen display. Meet lacks advanced au…

I think because Meet is fully browser based, some of the features like sharing audio with screen are only available via chrome or chromium based browsers -- definitely not on Firefox in my own testing. I don't know the exact reason for that, but it's kind of sad.

Which is why I don't use Meet.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

#75
Another advantage of Meet that it is under U.S. control and law. Zoom out their development team in China. That country actively targets dissidents. It’s easier when those controlling the software are easy for them to control.

Better to use Meet than Zoom if the Chinese are in your threat profile or a larger threat.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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post #5

Meet, to me, is the perfect balance of functionality and simplicity (as an end user). And features like this only make that more apparent. Zoom and Teams always frustrate me, even though they're what I use far more often. It's too bad that video conferencing is largely a game of who has the most boxes checked - IT admins and A/V folk are the ones that need to be convinced, and Meet just doesn't ...meet... their needs

My Meet calls always end up pixelated, where Zoom looks perfect. That’s basically the only thing I care about after the audio quality, I often cannot read someone’s screen when shared via Meet. Zoom also feels lower latency but I never checked if that’s the case.

Note sure if that’s because I’m not in the US.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

#77
I just want to say that this is really actually kind of mind-blowing from an audio engineering perspective.

Outputting audio from multiple laptops in the same room is easy. Perfectly syncing it is harder. Implementing echo cancellation across all of that is quite a bit trickier than regular single-device echo cancellation.

But then treating all the laptop microphones as a kind of microphone array, having to deal with sync issues and phase issues and background noise issues... that's hard core.

Kudos to the engineering team on this one. This is actually pretty amazing.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

#78
The fact that you can't easily go full screen on Meets is bizarre. Makes it a non-starter for pairing. Also, the dedicated app's session lasts for like a day which makes it useless, so I'm stuck having to scroll through my 3 chrome windows and 40 tabs to see where my meets tab is. Although I'm sure the session timeout is some sort of gsuite configuration

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Meet requires a Google account to attend a video call while Zoom does not. So if your hosting a meeting with strangers, using Meet is not user friendly. At least personally I refuse to make a Google account bc it requires giving Google my phone number... But I know that's a bit of technoludditism in the current zeitgeist

This is only true for meetings created with free gmail accounts. If use Google Workspace this limitation does not apply.

That's a shady tactic right there.

Re: Google Meet rolls out multi-device adaptive audio merging

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meet frustrates me immensely because I can't just fullscreen someone sharing an HD screen onto my HD screen and get 1:1 pixels with an overlay of faces (like Zoom does). Instead, I have to either not be able to read small text, or awkwardly pan in the recently-added "zoom" view.

You get near full screen watching a shared screen with Meets with these steps: 1. change Meets call layout to one video (presentation) only, disabling participant watching 2. press F11 to make browser go full screen 3. press Ctrl+Minus multiple times to decrease UI elements which makes the shared video near full screen

I'll try that, thanks!
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