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ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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What makes you think it wasn't a social network?

It is only a chat platform and it predates the first social networks (which were explicitly called "social networks" back then). This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, but I think people use the term "social network" way to much so that it doesn't even mean anything any more.

I don't know what the official ICQ client does today but back in the day it had more than just chats between people. It had file sharing, etc.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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A few weeks ago I shut down my self hosted znc bouncer that I still logged in every few weeks to download logs, see if I got pinged somewhere and catch up with some low traffic channels. I then switched over to https://www.irccloud.com and it's such a improvement as I can use it on my phone, now I'm pretty active again and I kinda missed it.

Are there any self-hosted alternatives?

I haven't used it, but Quassel looks like a similar idea.

Alternatively using a Soju[1] with Goguma[2] for phone and Gamja[3] for web could work; FWIW, I use Soju, but not the other two.

1: https://sr.ht/~emersion/soju/

2: https://sr.ht/~emersion/goguma/

3: https://sr.ht/~emersion/gamja/

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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4125222 I still remember it but not the pass

219431446 was me :D. No idea why I still remember that.

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Tried to login a few years back to see if any of my old Quake buddies happened to still use it, but couldn't. Support said unless I had the recovery email still, which was at bigfoot.com which has been dead for decades, I was out of luck.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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What makes you think it wasn't a social network?

We associate other stuff like sharing and virality with social networks. Isn't the phone network just as much of a social network as ICQ?

I think party lines on the phone, yes.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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ICQ was the primary tool for my friends and I to play games online ( quake, doom, starcraft, etc ). Not only with each other but people all around the world. Every time we joined a server our list of icq friends kept increasing. I still remembering coming home from school and immediately checking icq. The mid 90s to early 2000s was a real special time.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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> mostly just Russians wanting to practice their English I guess that explains their recommendation of VK Messenger as a replacement. 360487731

> Originally developed by the Israeli company Mirabilis in 1996, the client was bought by AOL in 1998, and then by Mail.Ru Group (now VK) in 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ

I remember I paid $600 or so to Mirabilis around 1996 to buy their http server library to save the development time.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Well... I don't know that they ever officially released a protocol spec, but libpurple implements ICQ so at least enough of the protocol was reverse engineered or understood somehow to allow for OSS clients. So I suppose somebody could start from there and build a compatible server. Of course it might wind up only being compatible with Pidgin and other libpurple based clients, and the market for this is probably appr…

1. What has happened to us that 16M people is something we just laugh at as an inconsequential number, wtf. 2. SNR on those 16M people is probably well above average in the vector of most interesting people on the planet.

What has happened to us that 16M people is something we just laugh at as an inconsequential number, wtf.

I literally meant 16 total people. To be fair, that was a bit of hyperbole, but the point is that there probably aren't a lot of people looking to use an "open source ICQ alternative" in 2024.

That doesn't mean that somebody shouldn't still do it, but it would probably be a passion project, more than something that would make money. At least that's my guess. :-)

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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My reading (and maybe I'm wrong because the comment was terse) is that IRC will never die, because it is not a commercial interest that can be shuttered. It's an open protocol and anyone can spin up a server. Any community you build inside a walled garden can be taken from you. I do think that is important to keep in mind.

It can't die because of that, but the reason we use things like reddit and discord and slack is because those are not open protocols -- they have monied interests behind getting people to use them The idealism of the internet in the 80s and 90s never could survive past the growth phase.

I don't use reddit, discord and slack because they are not open protocols. I use them because of the network effect and only reluctantly. Look at the relatively recent success of software like bittorrent and know that idealism and commercialism both live and die by the network effect. We aren't doomed to live in walled gardens forever.
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