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This may be a naive question, but why is it not enough to set your mail client to save a copy of all messages?
I'm not leery of Google shuttering its Gmail service, but I can imagine a scenario where they cut off my access to Gmail and I have no way to plead my case to the search behemoth. I am baffled at how people continue using such a service for something as important as e-mail in 2012, while still being fully aware that their access can be completely cut off at random with no reason or recourse. Does everyone just assume…
To me, it's worth the tiny, tiny risk that I might get cut off.
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I couldn't agree more. Email is essentially the skeleton key to all your other accounts thanks to email reset, even if you use your own domain and don't risk the virtual armageddon of losing both all your mail and your address forever you still risk losing all your mail. Even worse, if your account is hacked you have no effective recourse whatsoever and someone will have access to all your accounts, contacts and emai…
If you use Google Apps with your own domain and make backups of your mail, then you have a very small chance of losing your address and your mail. People hate on Google Apps, but you don't give up control if you follow both these steps (which is easy.) I also don't see any reason why another email provider won't do what people are afraid Google will do.
Really?
Do you know of any other (free) options out there with comparable options? I really only use the hosted email, but other features are always handy
1. It saves one big inscrutable .db file rather than individual messages in some compatible format or other.
2. It doesn't seem to play nice with laptop suspend. If I'm going to run it as a scheduled task then it needs to not get confused if I shut my laptop lid in the middle of a run.
3. It could be clearer about the correct workflow for continual incremental backups. It sounds like you probably want to do one full backup, continual partial backups and then occasionally a full backup in case your labels have changed. I don't like choices.
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You can always get your data if you do backups - like you should in any case - so that point is moot. So, you're paying and giving up on a nice webmail client with two-factor auth (how many providers offer this?) for "finding out what happen". I don't think it's a great deal. I'm not a Gmail apologist, by the way - I think there are valid reasons not to use it, like not giving Google a copy of your whole life - but I…
You do not have to give GMail up, not sure where you read that... The point was, that exclusively relying on it is not smart, if email is important to you. You can easily use the full benefits of your gmail convenience while still having a fully working fallback. There are even two ways of doing it, one would be to simply forward your email, or using your own domain on google apps.
Hmm, from the first post I replied to (by 'there'):
I am baffled at how people continue using such a serviceOn most stock OSes, this will show your password to anyone who views the list of processes on the machine. Try 'imapsync' [1] instead, as it uses a config file for your credentials instead of command-line arguments, keeping the secret(s) out of the process list. Also, the author of this blog post is showing his inexperience: > BaGoMa's output is pretty informative so I send it to log a file in case I ever want to che…
gmvault opens a browser window, where you confirm you want to give an auth token to gmvault. All without a password anywhere.
So. GMVault looks like the best solution except: 1. It saves one big inscrutable .db file rather than individual messages in some compatible format or other. 2. It doesn't seem to play nice with laptop suspend. If I'm going to run it as a scheduled task then it needs to not get confused if I shut my laptop lid in the middle of a run. 3. It could be clearer about the correct workflow for continual incremental backups.…
1. Gmvault doesn't save all your emails in a .db file. It creates a db directory which contains sub directories containing your emails in eml format. So it is using a standard email format and allow users to access individual emails.
2. I have already closed my laptop and reopen it and Gmvault restarted from where it stopped (tried on windows). Still there might be a problem so please report it following the instructions here: http://gmvault.org/report_pb.html.
3. Regarding the workflow, the recommended mode is to do a full backup and then daily do a quick backup. The quick backup is an incremental backup that only check emails for the last two months. It takes only 2 to 3 minutes normally.
Another good one is http://gmvault.org . I used this just recently to backup and transfer all of my Google Apps emails to a separate gmail account since I'm transferring my apps domain to a different provider. Going just off of what the article says about BaGoMa, Gmvault seems to be comparable in features.
Been trying to get gmvault to do at least one successful run since it showed up on HN maybe a week or so ago. It always stops somewhere at mails from 2008 with no error message, just dies. Guess I'll wait until it's a bit more mature. I only have 6GB of mails too.
For this reason, there is a --restart option for the sync and restore mode (sync being the backup). The restart mode is a resume mode that will restart the backup or restore near from where it failed.
With that mode you should be able to download your 6 GB on disk.
So. GMVault looks like the best solution except: 1. It saves one big inscrutable .db file rather than individual messages in some compatible format or other. 2. It doesn't seem to play nice with laptop suspend. If I'm going to run it as a scheduled task then it needs to not get confused if I shut my laptop lid in the middle of a run. 3. It could be clearer about the correct workflow for continual incremental backups.…
I am the Gmvault developer. 1. Gmvault doesn't save all your emails in a .db file. It creates a db directory which contains sub directories containing your emails in eml format. So it is using a standard email format and allow users to access individual emails. 2. I have already closed my laptop and reopen it and Gmvault restarted from where it stopped (tried on windows). Still there might be a problem so please repo…
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gmvault opens a browser window, where you confirm you want to give an auth token to gmvault. All without a password anywhere.
If you don't want to use the oauth token mechanism or if it doesn't work, you could also use your gmail password but it isn't recommended.