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Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Apple’s tempo is so regular that this has been a problem my entire adult life. I’ll buy a little later. I’ll buy a little later!

The way to exit that loop is to convince yourself that the next one will bring a truly lasting difference. Which is why I'm still waiting for GDDR7 GPUs with my 4GB RX 480.

Get the math co-processor! It'll rip.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Besides maybe battery life (which is a huge win), anything you'd benefit from the M's? I only had a 2008 macbook so I'm curious.

Overall, my 2020 M1 MBP is infinitely better than the 2015 MBP I had before, it's not even close. Battery life, thermal output, speed, noise, neural engine (for ML workloads). It's an utter workhorse that just marches on, no matter what I throw at it. I haven't even considered upgrading to another more current Mx version because this one just.. works. Best laptop I ever owned.

I just want to echo this experience and sentiment. I absolutely adore my 2020 13” M1 mbp, for all the reasons you list. I do ML workloads and Linux builds and I’m starting to think they forgot to put fans in mine because I’ve never heard them! Despite the annoying limitation of 1 external screen, it’s up there with my 2007 13” mb (rest in peace) as being the best laptop I’ve ever owned.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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The most incredible thing about the new iPads is that even with the crazy fast M4 chip MS Teams manages to crawl to a halt. Clearly it takes all the engineering skills of the largest and most valuable software company in the world to make text entry go at about 1 fps on a chip as powerful as the M4.

The wonders of web development.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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The most incredible thing about the new iPads is that even with the crazy fast M4 chip MS Teams manages to crawl to a halt. Clearly it takes all the engineering skills of the largest and most valuable software company in the world to make text entry go at about 1 fps on a chip as powerful as the M4.

LOL, you wanna try it on my ~2 generations old Core i5 corporate laptop. Sometimes, the first steps of drawing the calendar view are roughly the same speed as me drawing it in Paint. Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on. (Has anyone done a deep dive into Teams to explain what on earth is going on? I mean, if VSCode can be fast despite its underlying architecture, surely someth…

Do companies using Teams have a choice of using something else or are their C*Os and IT departments married with Microsoft? If the latter, they'll use whatever Microsoft throws at them, even if it doesn't work.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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The most incredible thing about the new iPads is that even with the crazy fast M4 chip MS Teams manages to crawl to a halt. Clearly it takes all the engineering skills of the largest and most valuable software company in the world to make text entry go at about 1 fps on a chip as powerful as the M4.

LOL, you wanna try it on my ~2 generations old Core i5 corporate laptop. Sometimes, the first steps of drawing the calendar view are roughly the same speed as me drawing it in Paint. Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on. (Has anyone done a deep dive into Teams to explain what on earth is going on? I mean, if VSCode can be fast despite its underlying architecture, surely someth…

>> Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on.

Then the developers will complain the hardware is unusable to do their job even though that this was a supercomputer back in the day. Then you say "No, it's the software please fix it."

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Every character you type results in some sort of hit to their telemetry server. It will include the actual letter you typed, if you or your org are not configured to be in EU. With their EU configuration option (pulled from server every launch) it will only report the fact that you typed _something_. Now if that's not fun enough, their telemetry also covers mouse movements. Go ahead and watch your CPU as you spin you…

I’m in the EU and should have the EU configuration. The problem mainly occurs when I mention someone in a reply to a thread. Once I type @ the text input just slows down so much I can type much faster than it can render the text.

It's still going through the same telemetry action, it just omits the actual character you typed. And yes, it is character by character. That collection (eg, the timestamp you hit the character, channel/person it was to, etc) is the inefficiency causing your typing to slow.

If it was a straight text box that they polled contents of _occasionally_ or after you hit 'send', it would be a much better user experience.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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The most incredible thing about the new iPads is that even with the crazy fast M4 chip MS Teams manages to crawl to a halt. Clearly it takes all the engineering skills of the largest and most valuable software company in the world to make text entry go at about 1 fps on a chip as powerful as the M4.

Every character you type results in some sort of hit to their telemetry server. It will include the actual letter you typed, if you or your org are not configured to be in EU. With their EU configuration option (pulled from server every launch) it will only report the fact that you typed _something_. Now if that's not fun enough, their telemetry also covers mouse movements. Go ahead and watch your CPU as you spin you…

Do u have a source for this?
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