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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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I bet people would pay good money for a Framework display module that's usable eInk. (Assuming it can use the same display connector.) https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001 https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86...

https://x.com/zephray_wenting/status/1535041457035280392

Very, very, very interesting. It must be this one:

https://github.com/Modos-Labs/Glider

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I was about to write the same comment but you expressed it much better. I would also be happy if it could be both an android tablet but have a monitor mode where it just becomes a monitor.

You can use VNC to make an android tablet into a 2nd monitor. The latency isnt good enough for playing games or anything but for web pages and documents it works great.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Looks like a fantastic device. Any chance of getting these to Australia? I can’t see a shipping option.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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All the best to you! Just one little thing: I think you're killing your conversions. The website is janky even on my M1 Macbook Air. Not sure the scroll hijacking stuff is really needed to get your point across either. (Check it yourself https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis?url=daylightcomputer.com )

The scroll hijacking turned me off. I have an M3 so it was pretty smooth (not ProMotion smooth but kinda smooth), but I just want to SCROLL a page! Especially with a trackpad (which I exclusively use). Not blocking my scroll halfway through, it's just so jarring. Yes, cool tech, but we want simple websites. Your product should wow us, no special tricks needed.

> Yes, cool tech, but we want simple websites. Your product should wow us, no special tricks needed.

Agree.

Many times when my teams or I built products we had came up with cool CSS tricks or visual pizzaz during the creative process. Swishes, swirls, micro interactions, confetti, particle animations, and all that jazz. Absolutely adore stuff like this.

But: you really need to put yourself into the chanclas of a new user. Of a person who's on the page for the very first time. During their lunch break. While waiting in line for a coffee. Ask yourself: Is that really needed?

And cut mercilessly.

Side note: You can observe a different flavour of that same thing in great screenplays / movies. Nothing is there just for the sake of it; every scene promotes the plot and tells us things about the characters. [0] Compare this to the drawn out, flashy, soulless action sequences you see in DC action flicks or Matrix 2 and beyond.

[0] E.g., excellent analysis of one of those case here: Pirates of the Caribbean - Accidentally Genius (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdBNVY55oM)

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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That's absolutely something I do not want after paying almost 800 dollars. Why do you assume that I want to sync my data to the cloud? I maybe want to rsync my stuff to another device of my own. Will I need an account to access the Android store? Again something I don't either want and dislike. And finally will I need to customize it to have root access? I also don't want to do that, I should fully own the thing and…

Can't you just get Syncthing or Termux (for rsync) from fdroid? That's what I do on any Android. No cloud bullshit or account in Google necessary.

Sure, I can. And I do on my mobile phone cause is the most covenient and fast thing to do and don't have much of a choice.

But why do I need to put termux on a device when it is already running a full-fledged linux? How would you feel if tomorrow you are forced to use Docker just because you can't have root access to your PC? For me it doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm really disappointed of seeing cool stuff locked down by default. Why? Why not be a nice player and go full open source from day one? Is that really hard thing to do? Do they lose anything by doing so?

Or at least when I turn on the device for the first time give me options to choose from:

a) A regular Android. b) An Android that has full root access. c) Run a regular Linux. d) Something else.

In any case the user should easily be able to change to any of the above once running.

Is that asking too much for 800 bucks and for a device that has just entered the market?

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I was about to write the same comment but you expressed it much better. I would also be happy if it could be both an android tablet but have a monitor mode where it just becomes a monitor.

You can use VNC to make an android tablet into a 2nd monitor. The latency isnt good enough for playing games or anything but for web pages and documents it works great.

I've tried that before but the latency bothers me a lot even when typing, etc.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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I like my rm2, but 2 of my biggest issues are: - Syncing changes I make to PDFs to Google drive is tedious - For some reason there's a restriction of color when drawing on the PDF. Even if The tablet is black and white which is fine, I want to be able to select a wide range of colors since ultimately I'll want to be able to view the PDFs on a legit RGB computer. What does this workflow look like on Daylight?

I think there’s a limit on colors purely because it’s already nearly impossible to distinguish them on the BW screen?

Yeah but I'll be viewing the PDF on my phone / computer, so being able to annotate in different colors even if the display is BW is important to me.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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This completely changes the chances that I'll buy this. I love the idea, but I just can't see myself ever buying an android device that is running Google's panopticon. I also noticed there's nothing on the product page about privacy, and was about to write this off as another nice gadget that I'd never be able to use. I'm very hopeful with an unlocked bootloader that the community will provide a more privacy-focused…

Same for me, if your product asks me to login with google I'm out. Just out. I've considered, for instance, getting a fair phone. But the only way to get a pre-de-googled one is through a third party at a 20% premium..

If an unlocked bootloader would satisfy you for this device, then surely the Fairphone should be good for you too? At least for the FP4, you don't even need the CLI or anything - just install the desktop app [1], connect your phone, and run the app.

[1] https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer

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