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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mdp2021 »

jelder wrote: post #146
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Sell me a massive desktop e-ink display with USB-C input. I want to code on this.

Consider if you really want B/W for coding.

(E-Ink colour displays, Kaleido3 for speed, do not come in "large" size - if you do not consider the exceptional ~60'' made for showrooms.)

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by pera »

yosito wrote: post #522
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

Why not just buy a Mira Pro? https://onyxboox.com/boox_mirapro

Onyx is a GPL violator unfortunately: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23735962

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by p_l »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #345
jimmysong wrote: post #159

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As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

> way less addicting than the typical laptop Xorg is still able to do 1bpp. Windows has a grayscale filter. Don't know if you can still get to render dithered B&W.

a lot of applications (especially GTK3/4) will go buggy if they open at all on 1bpp display. Generally anything that does not report TrueColor RGBA8888 or RGBx8888 as first visual will trip them up.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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meisenhus wrote: post #505
boochiboo12 wrote: post #124

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they're coming!! but i appreciate your skepticism until there's more video proof, i am the same too many broken promises by other tech cos, i understand we have to earn your trust there should be more video reviews coming out on twitter though from early customers / testers .. if i wasnt drowning in launch, id try to find you a link, if anyone else could help !

Publishing a sped-up video without telling us that it's sped up really killed all my trust I had in you guys. Seriously, what were you thinking? Your main and only selling point is the speed. So much so that that needs to compensate for lack of other features like resolution and color. And then you open the door to cheating accusations? You can now 100x say that it's really fast and no ghosting and all that, but your…

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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jval43 »

serf wrote: post #257

I'm excited for all these epaper devices for use on my sailboat. Everyone uses tablets + Navionics, but glass tablets absolutely suck in bright daylight. It will be nice to find an ePaper device that I trust enough to use for charts.

A 2000 nits bright iPhone is perfectly usable outside in bright sunlight.

The brightest iPad (iPad Pro) is currently 1000 nits. Not quite there yet, but I'm sure the next generations will only improve.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jeffhuys »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #565

All the best to you! Just one little thing: I think you're killing your conversions. The website is janky even on my M1 Macbook Air. Not sure the scroll hijacking stuff is really needed to get your point across either. (Check it yourself https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis?url=daylightcomputer.com )

The scroll hijacking turned me off. I have an M3 so it was pretty smooth (not ProMotion smooth but kinda smooth), but I just want to SCROLL a page! Especially with a trackpad (which I exclusively use). Not blocking my scroll halfway through, it's just so jarring. Yes, cool tech, but we want simple websites. Your product should wow us, no special tricks needed.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mdp2021 »

Hendrikto wrote: post #504
boochiboo12 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they're coming!! but i appreciate your skepticism until there's more video proof, i am the same too many broken promises by other tech cos, i understand we have to earn your trust there should be more video reviews coming out on twitter though from early customers / testers .. if i wasnt drowning in launch, id try to find you a link, if anyone else could help !

What do you do with all the time you save on capitals and punctuation?

> What do you do with all the time you save

> if i wasnt drowning in launch

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jeffhuys »

Cyberdog wrote: post #187
NBJack wrote: post #12

Oof. I hope the tablet is better than the website. I think I need to switch to a device with a dedicated GPU to see it right. My laptop is struggling, and it's running a 12th gen i5. They seem to be using a video provider that can't keep up either. Still, the tablet looks exciting, especially since it's based on Android. I'm curious as to how they overcame the refresh rate issue that plagues so many similar displays.

Agreed. I don't have faith they can make a usable device if they can't make a usable web page. Never break, take over, or "fix" scrolling! Never!

It shows, to me, that they only tried their website on a "normal" mouse with scrollwheel. My trackpad does (sub-)pixel scrolling guys! I'm used to having full control over websites. Those that take away that control feel sluggish and unprofessional (this JS snippet makes our scrolling cool!), and distracts me away from the (sparse!) content.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boesboes »

divan wrote: post #85
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Any chance of the A4 size device and higher DPI in the future? Will pay any money for that. A4 e-ink has considerable audience that doesn't know they need it – people who read papers. All the academia is formatted for A4 and stored in PDFs, which is pretty unreadable even on 10". People literally print them on paper to read. I currently enjoying A4-sized Boox Tab X and it's a game changer, as I read a lot of papers a…

I've been waiting for 10 years for a A4 e-ink device. Only Sony made one, but it was never available anywhere. And pretty meh probably too :)

Remarkable 2 was pretty decent for notes, but terrible for reading imo. And the bs to get a proper ebook app on it etc was just too much for me.

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