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Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by AlienRobot »

IAmNotACellist wrote: post #33
_air wrote: post #19

Is Google losing significant web traffic to ChatGPT and others? I don't understand why else they'd test a product like this so widely.

If they had any sense at all (questionable) they would be absolutely pants-shittingly terrified that their prized product has been completely undercut by an upstart in a matter of months, and that Microsoft has a deep partnership with that competitor. I'd think even the leadership at Google can figure out that ChatGPT eats their lunch in terms of cutting through the SEO bullshit and giving actual information. If they…

Personally, every time I see chat GPT's output I just skip it. I look at it and I'm not sure it's quoting things literally or changing them, so I can't trust anything the summary says, and if I'm going to click the links anyway, I don't need the summary.

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by pylua »

ks2048 wrote: post #42
pylua wrote: post #15

On a slight side note, I heard Reddit is selling or wants to sell its data. If I had to guess there is a lot of sarcasm and dark humor in that data, which companies may not want in their llm. I wonder how this is being handled.

It is already being "handled" (ie included in search results) https://sherwood.news/tech/google-ai-search-is-telling-users...

Well, I guess that is one way to “handle” it. I will be suspicious next time I have a white sauce pizza.

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by AlienRobot »

bugglebeetle wrote: post #12
enceladus06 wrote: post #5

Is there a way to turn the ai search result off in Google? It is not helpful.

I haven’t seen it all. Is it rolled out globally? I also use an ad blocker though.

I don't think it has. I don't see it here in Brazil.

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by sgerenser »

jsheard wrote: post #14
jjulius wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh, not quite true. I just asked it, and it said... > The United States has not had any presidents who have publicly identified as Muslim. The vast majority of presidents have been Christian, with most belonging to Protestant denominations. The Constitution prohibits any religious test for holding office, so a Muslim (or person of any faith) can certainly become president in the future.

It's non-deterministic of course, and it's entirely possible that Google is hotfixing egregious failures with RLHF after they go viral. It was giving that result earlier though. https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1793768913245020502

When doing a search about famous Muslims in the US, I just got the AI box to pop up briefly, then collapse and say “AI search summary is not available for this query.” Sounds like they’re just blocking anything with the word Muslim in it now from activating the AI box.

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by pylua »

rovr138 wrote: post #43
pylua wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know, but I am curious as how they are going to monetize it.

I'm curious how websites will stay in business once it's kinda good or people just start thinking it's true

Seems like eventually, it would become the dominant predator, and deplete its food supply?

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by cryptoz »

jjulius wrote: post #16
cryptoz wrote: post #9

Side note, when did Reddit unarchive posts? I remember years ago they stopped allowing new comments on a post, but here is a decade-old post with new comments! And to stay on topic- this is exactly why ChatGPT took off. OpenAI says they were surprised by the huge response…but, their intense (and yeah controversial) RLHF really pays off with not suggesting soooo much of this wrong / dangerous stuff. Google of course i…

>Side note, when did Reddit unarchive posts? I remember years ago they stopped allowing new comments on a post, but here is a decade-old post with new comments! You say "here is a decade-old post", but... where is it? The main article from this thread only contains links to The Onion, BlueSky and The Verge, unless I've missed one.

From here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40461634

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by joseda-hg »

jsheard wrote: post #6

If you ask it how many Muslim presidents the US has had, it will confidently tell you that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim. I'm beginning to think that treating statistically common sequences of words on the whole internet as a source of truth may not actually be a very good idea. edit: screenshots for posterity https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1793768913245020502

It'd be hilarious if it can be memed into not knowing Obama's Middle Name

Re: Google's AI-generated search results keep citing The Onion

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Post by belter »

jsheard wrote: post #6

If you ask it how many Muslim presidents the US has had, it will confidently tell you that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim. I'm beginning to think that treating statistically common sequences of words on the whole internet as a source of truth may not actually be a very good idea. edit: screenshots for posterity https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1793768913245020502

Why do I have the sensation Sundar Pichai is currently updating his CV?
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