One thing that disappointed me with rM2 was the broken promise of developing your apps, rm2 became
pretty closed (or not as easy and accessible) ecosystem, and I think it suffered. Most people on rM1 praised their DIY and hackability. Daydream looks beautiful, I hope they incentivise apps creation for the everyday engineer, who likes to tinker in spare time - it is Android
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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#222Android 13, at a time when 15 will likely be production ready in a few months, seems to hint at a risk of not getting updates.
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#223Sol:OS... it's just Android but we have to call it an OS I guess
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#224Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Concerned a little bit about the lower DPI (190), how does aliasing compare to lets say Remarkable 2 (224). I find the Kindle Scribe is at 300 DPI.
Handwriting with the Scribe is amazing to me, hoping to see or understand how it compares.
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#225Where do I invest?
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
we've built our own PDF parser / renderer, so we have a pretty good beta PDF reader app we're building next up would be epub reader / support and then building our own notetaker & typewriter app (though google docs, lex.page, IA writer are pretty good) and many more services and apps, like actually finally good handwriting recognition
Why PDF first? Isn't reading Ebooks (in ebook format) the main use case for such devices?
Once you're approaching regular paper size, PDF is king.
There are just so, so many documents out there which were laid out with A4 paper in mind, which can't really be converted to any other format with reasonable effort. Just think of every research paper published ever.
People who are primarily reading books aren't really in the market for this kind of device. You can read books just fine on any old kindle and it's far more comfortable on a smaller, lighter device.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#227Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc. Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and mi…
I bet people would pay good money for a Framework display module that's usable eInk. (Assuming it can use the same display connector.)
https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001
https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86...
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#228It's not an e-ink display, but rather a monochrome transreflective lcd. [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/comments/1bk294i/comment/kvx17...
Thank you.
I still think that calling it e-paper is disingenuous. My initial impression was that this was some e-ink breakthrough, but it's really just a backlit monochrome LCD. I'm not sure how they can claim that it's "non-emissive", when it literally uses a backlight. An LCD with an amber filter doesn't come close to the readability of e-ink, so I'm not sure what advancements they've made to make it feel like "magic" or "paper-like". Shelling out $729 to find out how it looks in person, based on a slick marketing site and positive comments from "beta testers", is a hard ask.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks great, albeit a high price point. Why not a newer Android?
just small dev team, updating to new android and porting over all your changes is a tremendous amount of work believe it or not if launch goes well, the team's gonna get a lot bigger and you can expect us being able to do much more on the AOSP/android side
I did order one, but what happens if you go out of business? What risk do I then have?
I assume this supports the play store, right?
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#230IMO, the software will be the most important part of the device, not necessarily the screen. What makes the Remarkable great is that it's functionality (while limited) makes for an excellent experience. Any more details on what apps will be built in and designed for the device? (not just 3rd party Android apps that will feel like any other tablet). Also - I would order this immediately to support more e-ink devices,…
we've built our own PDF parser / renderer, so we have a pretty good beta PDF reader app we're building next up would be epub reader / support and then building our own notetaker & typewriter app (though google docs, lex.page, IA writer are pretty good) and many more services and apps, like actually finally good handwriting recognition
Why not use existing libraries, like Poppler?