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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

funksta wrote: post #117
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…

1) remarkable & ratta are traditional off the shelf eink and have to use a frontlight (above the display) which has many tradeoffs

2) daylight actually uses microperforations in our LivePaper display, so we're able to use a backlight, which in our opinion is superior in multiple ways

one of which, is what you're describing! our backlight doesnt affect writing feel or distance from pen tip to display!

(also way better contrast with BLU on with backlight)

3) thats awesome! feel free to reach out if you want to collaborate, we want to build the best PDF experiences out there as we're serious about knowledge work

anjan at daylightcomputer.com

we will share more details about our pdf reader later this summer when we do an official software launch!

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

mikhailt wrote: post #83
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

What's your refund policy if we don't like it? There's no mention of refund/return on the page at all. Thanks.

full refund if you dont like it

its vulnerable for us as a small startup on a shoestring budget to offer this, but it is the right thing to offer

(sorry we will update the page to add details to refund/return!)

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by e-_pusher »

funksta wrote: post #117
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…

Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this device.

The problem with eink tablets is that they must use front light, and not backlight due to how eink works. This means there is an extra layer in front of the layer where the pixels are, which causes parallax effects which makes writing feel fake. This is (likely) why remarkable deleted the frontlight from their product.

Whereas with the daylight tablet, we have a trans reflective display and a backlight. Since the backlight layer is behind the layer where the pixels are, the parallax does not suffer.

I find the experience of writing with a Wacom EMR pen on mine very pleasing :)

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

tapia wrote: post #74
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

This looks very exiting! I am a long-time Sony DPT/Fujitsu Quaderno user and love these kind of devices. My question would be whether you have plans in the future to make a 13.3" version. The 10" versions are just too small for my use (mostly reading scientific papers).

yes we do! ipad mini and 13.Xin versions are kawaii af

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by htk »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Congratulations on the new tech, looks impressive! Any plans of developing monitors or portable displays to use with a laptop/smartphone in the sunlight?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by xnx »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #47
aresant wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instantly bought this to support your mission A "calm" computer interface is such a welcome idea and quality pursuit Participating in the good of the digital world - information access, communication, creativity While mitigating the bad - always on notifications, bio-hostile blue light interface, doom scrolling etc I hope that this V1 release of your philosophy is successful enough to keep building To that end what a…

holy moly dude you are articulating our value prop and philosophy even better than we can glad to be on the same team! long term goals/plans - make a whole ecosystem of healthier, distraction free computers.. phones, laptops, monitors, workstations, watches, PDAs, epaper whiteboards, etc - make awesome software that we can offer as public goods, funded by cash flow from hardware and memberships etc - make 'magical an…

Wow. Great looking device and great long term vision/mission. As someone who hacked an old Kindle to make a persistent weather display, I am wholly in support of what you're working on.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #88
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Did you build the display yourself.

yes

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by lights0123 »

thot_experiment wrote: post #114
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

I've used vim from the reMarkable and a C interpreter in a root shell when my laptop was broken. On-screen keyboard wasn't the best experience though

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

kiliantorpey wrote: post #80
boochiboo12 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) black & white because bayer color filter will cut your brightness by 66% 2) alas we gave up bistability for speed, so the image doesn't stay when you turn it off (however, we maybe can do quasi-bistability with this tech for watch or kindle sized future devices) 3) the pen writing feel is similar to my favorite japanese paper campus kokoyu. you could argue comparable to a remarkable or maybe even better for some 4…

Some more questions about software support. It seems the device is using android. Do you have any plan to support mainline linux kernel? It could allow the possibility to use native linux distro like PostmarketOS ( https://postmarketos.org/ ) for device longevity. Your team could also benefit from delegating some softare support effort to linux kernel team.

we're open to it! we just need to better understand what resources we need internally to support this effort and for the specific mediatek/qualcomm chips we're looking at
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