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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:08 PM UTC

mikhailt wrote: post #105

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

I watched the videos here: https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-509983 But it looks like it suffers from backlight bleeding if the screen brightness is at medium or full. I'm a bit concerned about that, can you help explain why that is happening.

those videos were shot on pre-production units. we may still not be perfect, but it should be a lot better on our most recent / PVT / production units

we'll update the videos once launch calms down!

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by msephton » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:08 PM UTC

antisthenes wrote: post #94

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Could you please answer my question? Here, without typing it again: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40459804

it's not eink

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by dmos62 » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:10 PM UTC

divan wrote: post #85

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Any chance of the A4 size device and higher DPI in the future? Will pay any money for that. A4 e-ink has considerable audience that doesn't know they need it – people who read papers. All the academia is formatted for A4 and stored in PDFs, which is pretty unreadable even on 10". People literally print them on paper to read. I currently enjoying A4-sized Boox Tab X and it's a game changer, as I read a lot of papers a…

I do use a newer boox android eink tablet for coding via termux and ssh. Great for my needs. I wonder how this compares.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by thot_experiment » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:10 PM UTC

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by vineyardlabs » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

boochiboo12 wrote: post #64

vineyardlabs wrote: post #58

Any more specific numbers on battery life? I see it says "days" on the website, but I'm curious if there's an hours number with usage condition specified (ie, screen on, reading a book, etc.)

still doing more testing, but some test results: - reading without amber backlight: 67 hours - youtube without amber backlight: 30 hours - reading with 30% amber brightness: 30 hours

That sounds fantastic, thanks.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by vineyardlabs » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

e-_pusher wrote: post #78

vineyardlabs wrote: post #58

Any more specific numbers on battery life? I see it says "days" on the website, but I'm curious if there's an hours number with usage condition specified (ie, screen on, reading a book, etc.)

Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this device. Anjan can comment further to see if the team these days has any further optimizations in store, but with my personal Daylight tablet anecdotally, these days I am charging it every other week, and using it for 1-2 hours a day to browse the web and read PDFs. I usually have a low backlight setting on it.

Awesome, thanks!

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by funksta » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk!

Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display).

Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about the built-in pdf (and epub, hopefully!) reader

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jsheard » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

cush wrote: post #43

dcan wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any plans to sell just the display?

It's interesting that Anjan compared the display tech to Pebble, because selling off the company instead of just the IP is where Pebble completely failed consumers. Pebble had something incredibly special, and then Fitbit bought Pebble and (for reasons I don't know) immediately killed all their projects and shelved all their tech. In a different reality, Anjan would have said, "Think of it as a Godzilla sized Fitbit…

The Pebbles display wasn't Pebbles own tech, they used off-the-shelf MIP LCDs from Sharp. You can still buy them and they're still used in more utilitarian wearables, e.g. from Garmin, and in the Playdate.

Sharp doesn't make anything tablet-sized though, so that's not what OP is using.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by thot_experiment » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

dcan wrote: post #30

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Any plans to sell just the display?

https://github.com/Modos-Labs/Glider if you're interested in DIY see here

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by faxmeyourcode » Thu, May 23, 2024, 9:13 PM UTC

To me the videos are absolutely mind blowing, congratulations on the launch.

It feels like a leap forward in an area of tech that has totally stagnated (e-ink). I think this device is tackling a few hard problems all at once. Well done and I wish you luck.