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Quant also relies on Bing API.

Quant or Qwant? Qwant does not rely on the Bing api but has its own index.

Are you sure about that? It doesn't completely rely on it but didn't it use bing as one of the search providers? I'm probably completely wrong and my info is outdated but I'm asking because it would be pretty special (in a good way!) if they use their own index exclusively.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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I grew up using Google (and ask jeeves and yahoo.) In school, google won.

Now, google sucks. It's all ads, AI SEO maxxing, and the work to find useful results has gone up manyfold. I found myself using site:"" to get closer to what I needed.

I tried DDG, and it's more or less the same, but it's like the search engine is conspiring against you to more or less find completely useless results.

I tried kagi, and i love it. I hate that it's 100 searches for the cheapest account, but it gets me right into the thick of my research off the bat, plus searching smallweb has brought my faith back into the internet, and it's AI stuff is useful, insofar that it doesn't get in the way.

DDG is still my standard search tool for "picture of banana" or "WWII jet airplanes" but for "forum discussion 73 magazine article on homebrew superheterodyne receiver from 1980s" im going straight to kagi.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Quant also relies on Bing API.

Quant or Qwant? Qwant does not rely on the Bing api but has its own index.

Qwant, sorry. On Wikiledia they mention Bing multiple times: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant

Qwant was also out of service today due to Bing API outage: https://www.gamingdeputy.com/bing-outage-exposes-qwant-and-d...

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Brave explicitly claims not to.[1] Brave also does not rely on Bing for results. [1] https://search.brave.com/help/privacy-policy Edit: mojeek claims the same.[2] [2] https://www.mojeek.com/about/privacy/

Last time i checked, Brave was insisting on convinving me to use certain cryptocurrency platforms and it was more intrusive with it than typical web ads, which seemed really twisted, as the same Brave claimed to give ad-free experience. Are they still doing that?

I was talking about Brave Search (https://search.brave.com), not Brave browser. Seaech doesn't promote crypto.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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That article is from 2011. I can imagine that in 13 years this may no longer be true.

What would lead you to believe that in the last 13 years MS would make the titanic investment of reimplementing their (alleged) Google-based search backend? Given the trajectory of Bing this seems unlikely.

For me it’s because DDG (aka Bing) results are vastly different than Google results. I use the !g and !s bangs often.

I think you’re making a huge assumption that nothing would change in 13 years!

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Brave rolled their own completely independent search [1] on what I assume is a relatively limited budget. It seems that regularly grabbing the data would be pretty easy. The harder part would be searching/ordering it in an efficient and meaningful way while avoiding SEO, but that seems more like a fun problem than a difficult one (if not both). [1] - https://search.brave.com/

There are two things the general HN sentiment genuinely believes is impossible to build unless you have billions of dollars: - Search Engines - Browser Engines I don't quite understand how we got there because neither of those things are impossible. Both are achievable with a small team and a couple years of runway. As proved by Brave and Ladybird.

It’s easy to make a crappy search and crappy browser, I think the sentiment is aimed at producing a useful alternative to google and chrome

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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I love the acknowledgement that DDG put on their page. We're currently experiencing an issue with DuckDuckGo Search. Thanks for your patience while we get our ducks in a row. In the meantime, you can use other search engines right here by using "bangs" So fun and straightforward.

Took them several hours to put that message there though.

They should put an if results = 0 then post helpful message instead of try broken search again?

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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As someone who uses Kagi, I think it is absolutely not accurate to say they are a search engine rather than a meta search engine. Most of their results come from the other engines you listed. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

Interesting, I always had the impression they had their own index. Shame.

As per the first sentence on that page, they do. It's just not their only source, and from my experience it is far from the main source. You can see "% of unique Kagi results" on each search; these are the results from their own index.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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I grew up using Google (and ask jeeves and yahoo.) In school, google won. Now, google sucks. It's all ads, AI SEO maxxing, and the work to find useful results has gone up manyfold. I found myself using site:"" to get closer to what I needed. I tried DDG, and it's more or less the same, but it's like the search engine is conspiring against you to more or less find completely useless results. I tried kagi, and i love i…

>it's like the search engine is conspiring against you to more or less find completely useless results.

Has not been my experience at all. Been using ddg as my default for a few years. What kinds of searches do you find frustrating?

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