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Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

Sakos wrote: post #43
cookiengineer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I disagree. The point behind tiling WMs and why a lot of people use lightweight IDEs (meaning multi-window IDEs) is that the idea of virtual desktops is used as a state management and state chronic restoration tool. A lot of i3/sway users I've seen (including me) are using virtual desktops to not forget what they were working on before the current task. Each dependency that created a sub task in their workflo…

Precisely this. It feels like scrolling WMs and tiling WMs are entirely different paradigms. I see no way to transfer my workflow with tiling to a scrolling WM.

Yes, they are fundamentally different in a way (although you could still keep the same layouts with Scrolling WMs). Scrolling WMs are a lot more useful for laptops, where the screen area is limited. It replaces the need for multi-monitors for me and that's quite revolutionary.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by leephillips »

neontomo wrote: post #44
leephillips wrote: post #25

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Why did you stop using it? Once I tried it I never looked back.

I would use it, I just never thought of getting it set up on my Mac. Do you know if it's possible/as good? I do love the simplicity and speed of DWM.

There are people using dwm on the Mac. I’ve never tried that myself.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by spwhitton »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

Also https://spwhitton.name/tech/code/papersway

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by jrm4 »

colordrops wrote: post #32
jrm4 wrote: post #13

OMG finally. NEVER understood why you needed to create a whole new WM for the creation of some solid window patterns with shortcuts.

Have you ever used a tiling window manager? It's a lot more than a few shortcuts and window patterns. I've used scripts and apps over standard WMs and it's usually a sub-par experience.

I have, and my take is literally the opposite of yours.

The full-on tiling managers are often very stripped down, and there are a lot of nice little bells and whistles in the big boys that can be made optional.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

jorvi wrote: post #38
kelvie wrote: post #36

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https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-en... This is a pretty good overview. There have been several HN discussions on this matter.

That is not an overview. An overview would show both sides. I’m not saying Vaxry is right or did nothing wrong, or that Drew’s portrayal is wrong, but what you linked is just Drew’s personal musings on the situation. I’ve seen someone be viciously attacked online for being bigoted against people who are less mentally able, only for it to surface after the attacks (and professional consequences) that the “bigotry” was…

Nah. You don't have to show both sides when the evidence is stacked. We don't have to publicize the criminal's take when they're unanimously, unambiguously convicted of murder. It's one thing if there is ambiguity, and the collective opinion is undecided, but that's not the case here.

Drew's personal musings on the situation form a reasonable overview in this case. Even a fraction of the evidence publicized is enough to justify the label "toxic."

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by colordrops »

jrm4 wrote: post #56
colordrops wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever used a tiling window manager? It's a lot more than a few shortcuts and window patterns. I've used scripts and apps over standard WMs and it's usually a sub-par experience.

I have, and my take is literally the opposite of yours. The full-on tiling managers are often very stripped down, and there are a lot of nice little bells and whistles in the big boys that can be made optional.

What I mean is that the tiling functionality is subpar when added as a second thought. Of course a traditional WM/DM is going to have a lot more bells and whistles.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by jrm4 »

colordrops wrote: post #58
jrm4 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have, and my take is literally the opposite of yours. The full-on tiling managers are often very stripped down, and there are a lot of nice little bells and whistles in the big boys that can be made optional.

What I mean is that the tiling functionality is subpar when added as a second thought. Of course a traditional WM/DM is going to have a lot more bells and whistles.

Right.

I mean, this gets at my whole issue with WM/DEs, why can't they ALL be more modular? At the end of the day, they're just a collection of programs.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by Zababa »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

Scrolling WMs seems to be alt+tab on steroid. Alt+tab is context dependant. Sometimes you'll need to press tab 3 times to go to your note taking app, sometimes 1, sometimes 5. On my computer it's always secondary screen (mod+right) then tag 1 (mod+1). There's still some context, I don't always put everything at the same place, so I've got mod+s to fuzzy find in the windows names.

From a aesthetic perspective, niri has slow animations and has one every time you move. That tells me it's not focused on moving instantly and as fast as possible from one window to another, so it's not for me. Sure you can probably configure it to do it differently, and if it was the only option in town I'm sure I wouldn't be too sad, it seems great. But it's made by and for people with different needs and wants than me.

> It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors.

That's what tiling window managers are at the most basic level for me. 9 tags, 9 monitors in one! But also, I can display multiple tags at once.

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