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Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by dheera »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

Personally I find the Ubuntu tiling asssistant quite adequate (super+1 super+2 super+3 etc. on the numeric keypad) and haven't really understood what these tiling WMs offer over that.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by colordrops »

jrm4 wrote: post #13

OMG finally. NEVER understood why you needed to create a whole new WM for the creation of some solid window patterns with shortcuts.

Have you ever used a tiling window manager? It's a lot more than a few shortcuts and window patterns. I've used scripts and apps over standard WMs and it's usually a sub-par experience.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by cookiengineer »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

I think I disagree.

The point behind tiling WMs and why a lot of people use lightweight IDEs (meaning multi-window IDEs) is that the idea of virtual desktops is used as a state management and state chronic restoration tool.

A lot of i3/sway users I've seen (including me) are using virtual desktops to not forget what they were working on before the current task. Each dependency that created a sub task in their workflow is represented by a "new layer set of windows". If they have multiple monitors, each monitor has a dedicated place for tools. E.g. the browser window for research, the debugging output, the app window they're working on etc.

Why I think scrolling WMs don't integrate nicely with this is because they lose the state of the historic placement of windows, which is kinda bad for this kind of workflow. But it might be just my bubble of devs that I interacted with.

Would be nice to hear how you were using tiling WMs before that? Was your workflow similar at all to what I described?

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by cl3misch »

kelvie wrote: post #27
NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

I just switched from hyprland (due to those toxicity articles) back to KDE, and was pleasantly surprised at how much better these scrollable WMs are. I use Karousel[1] which is actually implemented as a KWin script, amazingly. [1] https://github.com/peterfajdiga/karousel

Could you elaborate on the toxicity articles?

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by kelvie »

cl3misch wrote: post #35
kelvie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just switched from hyprland (due to those toxicity articles) back to KDE, and was pleasantly surprised at how much better these scrollable WMs are. I use Karousel[1] which is actually implemented as a KWin script, amazingly. [1] https://github.com/peterfajdiga/karousel

Could you elaborate on the toxicity articles?

https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-en...

This is a pretty good overview. There have been several HN discussions on this matter.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by hawski »

blahgeek wrote: post #14

It’s sad that this type of projects will not be possible with Wayland, because apparently pluggable wm is not a thing in Wayland

I thought about this and came to a conclusion, that it should be possible, though not exactly easy, to implement a Wayland compositor that speaks enough X11 to run an X11 Window Manager which would position Wayland windows, while not nullifying the whole security angle of Wayland.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by jorvi »

kelvie wrote: post #36
cl3misch wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate on the toxicity articles?

https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-en... This is a pretty good overview. There have been several HN discussions on this matter.

That is not an overview. An overview would show both sides.

I’m not saying Vaxry is right or did nothing wrong, or that Drew’s portrayal is wrong, but what you linked is just Drew’s personal musings on the situation.

I’ve seen someone be viciously attacked online for being bigoted against people who are less mentally able, only for it to surface after the attacks (and professional consequences) that the “bigotry” was calling someone a moron a few times.

Be careful about taking sides when you have only one side of the story. Not long ago HN harassed a Google employee for supposedly stealing a JavaScript accessibility project, only for it to later come to light that the accuser was dealing with some difficult personal situations that caused him to portray the entire thing lopsidedly.

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by fikama »

leephillips wrote: post #25
neontomo wrote: post #12

Makes me nostalgic about the time when I used DWM. Their philosophy page is worth a read for developers imo: https://suckless.org/philosophy/

Why did you stop using it? Once I tried it I never looked back.

For me its not supporting wayland

Re: Cortile – Linux auto tiling manager with hot corner support

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Post by wraptile »

kelvie wrote: post #27
NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

Great project but I truly believe that these single screen window managers are going to be a thing of the past if Scrollable WMs manage to find some more marketting. Niri[1] and PaperWM[2] for example, these Scrolling WMs provide a way to tile your apps in a way that feels natural. It's like having multiple monitors without having multiple monitors. When I first used PaperWM on Gnome, I just couldn't think of a reaso…

I just switched from hyprland (due to those toxicity articles) back to KDE, and was pleasantly surprised at how much better these scrollable WMs are. I use Karousel[1] which is actually implemented as a KWin script, amazingly. [1] https://github.com/peterfajdiga/karousel

Thank you for the recommendation. Just installed karousel on Plasma 6 and it works wonderfully part for really weird default keyboard shortcuts. Nothing a few minutes in the settings panel couldn't fix.

I'm not exactly sold on the window scrolling idea yet but switching between Karousel and Polonium[1] which is a traditional twm for Kwin is very easy so I'll be experiment with both.

1 - https://github.com/zeroxoneafour/polonium

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