Scarlett Johansson Says OpenAI Ripped Off Her Voice for ChatGPT • Hacker News Board

Re: Scarlett Johansson Says OpenAI Ripped Off Her Voice for ChatGPT

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Post by chrisjj » Wed, May 22, 2024, 10:55 PM UTC

bgentry wrote: post #49

chrisjj wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overturned? Hmm... https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-09-me-238-st... Tom Waits Wins $2 1/2 Million in Voice-Theft Suit In a novel case of voice theft, a Los Angeles federal court jury Tuesday awarded gravel-throated recording artist Tom Waits $2.475 million in damages from Frito-Lay Inc. and its advertising agency. The U.S. District Court jury found that the corn chip giant unlawfully appropriated Waits…

That’s a lower court within the 9th circuit, bound by the appellate court’s precedent.

Fair point. Thanks.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Says OpenAI Ripped Off Her Voice for ChatGPT

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Post by Athari » Thu, May 23, 2024, 5:04 AM UTC

quantified wrote: post #34

failedartifact wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're going for a style, just because SJ declined, should not mean they cannot pursue something similar. The fact they went to SJ in the first place means they had good intentions of getting a well founded voice. Likely a voice professional can detect clear differences, as it's not convincing to be SJ from an outsider.

Isn't it the case that her own family was convinced?

"My closest friends and news outlets" doesn't include family. Also, depending on how you ask, it's pretty easy to get any response. I wouldn't rely on that information.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Says OpenAI Ripped Off Her Voice for ChatGPT

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Post by Athari » Thu, May 23, 2024, 5:08 AM UTC

owlninja wrote: post #15

smusamashah wrote: post #5

To me that voice never sounded like her. Even when I try to listen as if it is really her talking. The voice in the movie 'Her' was very distinct. Not this one though. What about the voice of actress who actually did lend her voice for Sky? Can she claim that this is her voice?

>OpenAI said. “To protect their privacy, we cannot share the names of our voice talents.” Not sure the angle there though? If I was the voice actor I'd love for them to share my name, maybe lead to other gigs.

If I were a voice actor, I wouldn't risk sharing my name because 95% of VAs and creators in general would hate me. It's like declaring "I'm using AI to enhance my art" on Twitter, but worse.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Says OpenAI Ripped Off Her Voice for ChatGPT

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Post by Athari » Thu, May 23, 2024, 5:26 AM UTC

Symmetry wrote: post #13

Zvi has a pretty good summary of what happened: https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2024/05/22/do-not-mess-with-sca...

80% of the analysis is solid. "OpenAI Violated Their Own Position" — this we know and can prove, I agree.

But then asking GPT-4 for probabilities (LLM said chance of coincidence is 10%), comparing to Midler v Ford ("direct parallel"), quoting opinions of random people etc. start and it falls apart.