Shame the author immediately threw out grapheneos "because they purley focus on privacy", the user experience is much better than lineage these days.
Graphene also has a way to sandbox Play Services, and may even allow Google Wallet using that, making it so that they don't have to dual boot.
Degoogled Android – My Experience
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Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#62Shame the author immediately threw out grapheneos "because they purley focus on privacy", the user experience is much better than lineage these days.
GrapheneOS is better than LineageOS by every metric. It's basically flawless.
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That and the social isolation from trying use a phone that can't keep up with the activities and communication preferences of friends makes an iPhone a necessary compromise. I am still shocked at how much blue bubbles seem to affect some folk's social lives. Does it really matter that much?
You need to take a cab? You'd like me to book it? No problem... Oh sorry the apk of Uber I sideloaded needs manually updating. I'll just go to apkwtfbbq.com complete some captchas and install the new apk. I've got enough signal and data for that. No problem! Oh, now I need to flash an updated zip file of the service I use to replace Google on my phone because I'm concerned about corporate surveillance. Oh, the latest…
Also, it's no longer 2013. We have OTA updates and the Aurora store now.
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#64The microg_installer_revived module isn't necessary anymore if you're using a build from within the last month. The Lineage folks finally implemented signature spoofing for microg, simply downloading it from the official website or f-droid repo works now.
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah this is surprising to me too. Also, you can contribute to osm if a street was missing. The complaint about having to download the map seems unreasonable too. It downloads the world map and then the local map and you're done. Generally the local map for an area is like 50 to 100MB from memory. Perhaps they are in a very remote location with slow internet and no map data, but downloading the lineage ROM would be a…
They should learn from Google, and package their maps so they can be streamed to clients piecemeal. I bet they spend more in data egress than compute, and PostGIS is basically made for this.
I'm guessing these apps did it this way for a reason, probably to support the offline usecase and not need a separate way to do it.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
One thing I wanted to mention after reading the article is that LineageOS has Google servers hard coded into the OS, while GrapheneOS gives you the option of using their servers instead. It also allows you to selectively turn on certain features that require Google code, such as e-sim cards. LineageOS has their own implementation of gapps, which they have built into their sandbox system. I can choose to install Googl…
> LineageOS has their own implementation of gapps Really? Every installation I've seen with Lineage is to flash microG or MindTheGapps separately I've used lineage for a few years now with only Magisk as an extra zip (no gapps) and I have not seen any google activity.
https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play
I unfortunately can’t speak to what they mean by sandboxed Google Play being ‘close to fully functional’ as I haven’t used it yet.
I’ve also been trying to replace notification push servers for msg notifications as those are usually routed through Google services. This article has a short explanation of what I’m referring to: https://medium.com/@KaushalVasava/push-notification-in-andro...
Like others have mentioned, I was also referring to the connectivity checks as well. GrapheneOS maintains some servers to provide the same service which the Google equivalents do, just without actually talking to Google.
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#67Most "degoogled" systems are not degoolged: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
this comparison looks good, but it claims that there is no opt-out for microG in /e/OS. yet, in the app settings i can simply disable microG completely. is that not sufficient for opt-out?
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#68The microg_installer_revived module isn't necessary anymore if you're using a build from within the last month. The Lineage folks finally implemented signature spoofing for microg, simply downloading it from the official website or f-droid repo works now.
Download what from F-droid? When I search for microg I only find location providers.
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#69Most "degoogled" systems are not degoolged: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
this comparison looks good, but it claims that there is no opt-out for microG in /e/OS. yet, in the app settings i can simply disable microG completely. is that not sufficient for opt-out?
If there is such an option then you can report it here: https://github.com/eylenburg/eylenburg.github.io/issues
Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience
#70Regarding the maps thing... > My dad’s house wasn’t on the map. Neither was my mom’s house. Neither was my friend’s place. Obviously I can’t use apps based on OpenStreetMaps to get me places if the places I want to go aren’t on the map. What do they mean by not on the map? Is it not showing up in search? Is it the housenumber wasn't there? Is it the street not existing at all? If manually zooming to the place was it…