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Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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post #166

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In this case, because I don't expect Biden to win another term and I expect the prosecution of this case to take longer than a year. The last several administrations have opened their term by tearing down everything that the prior administration had done. To be specific: I'm not confident the prosecutor behind this will have a job at the end of the year.

I genuinely think that if Biden does not win another term there are far larger problems for the American project than Ticketmaster, including democracy existing as we know it today.

Unified Reich of America. It's just one letter aways from USA.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/05/22/t...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69045271

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/21/politics/trump-nazi-allus...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/after-backlash-trump-pulls-...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/21/dona...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/21/trump-unified-reich...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-election-2024-rhetoric-germ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/us/donald-trump-reich-vid...

Once there is backslash, just blame a junior staffer instead of making the head honcho resign for not controlling what goes into an important PR stream.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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Exactly this. The first few days in office, a new POTUS will typically use executive orders specifically to reverse policies the previous administration put in place.

EO cannot be used to drop pending litigation. It would require a different mechanism

> different mechanism

POTUS: Mr Attorney General, it is this administrations agenda to no longer pursue these specific cases: anything with me as the defendant.

AG: Understood Mr POTUS, we'll back burner everything that cannot just be stopped or dropped.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

#253
post #231

The FTC and DoJ have been hitting it out of the park recently, unfortunately, there are a lot of judges out there that think corps should be able to do anything they want.

Corporate America is certainly not a fan of FTC chair Lina Khan. She's been subjected to a barrage of attacks from places like the Wall Street journal so she must be doing something right. Jon Stewart revealed when interviewing her, that Apple executives had asked him not to have her on his podcast. https://youtu.be/CnC9JV5YtBY?feature=shared

I mean mostly people make fun of her for losing every important case she picks up.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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I don't understand people like you. A government agency does something material to help the consumer and you just shit talk and resort to base cynicism. Nothing would ever change if everyone was as apathetic as you are.

Cynicism helps people feel smart, when in many cases it actually just reveals their immense ignorance (such as this case).

Or, they've lived on enough to see the impact of regulation go wrong.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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post #231

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Corporate America is certainly not a fan of FTC chair Lina Khan. She's been subjected to a barrage of attacks from places like the Wall Street journal so she must be doing something right. Jon Stewart revealed when interviewing her, that Apple executives had asked him not to have her on his podcast. https://youtu.be/CnC9JV5YtBY?feature=shared

I mean mostly people make fun of her for losing every important case she picks up.

They're a little rusty after sitting on their hands for several decades, they'll get better with practice.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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Live Nation / Ticketmaster is also an excellent example of a bad for consumers monopoly.

Pardon my ignorance here, as I don't actually attend concerts, but to play something of devil's advocate... Isn't the secondary market for tickets- scalpers and such- significantly more expensive than what Ticketmaster is selling the tickets for? Which is to say, aren't the tickets sold below market value? I'm not entirely clear on how there being more competition would help consumers.

Ticketmaster enables "scalping" by offering a secondary market on their own platform. They have a vested interest in this, and due to a lack of real competition they have no reason to realign incentives. Meaningful competitors could do all sorts of things that make a difference in this area.

Consumers are also the people running the concerts themselves (performers and whatnot) who have bad experiences with Ticketmaster but don't really have an alternative. Lower fees, non-exclusivity terms, etc.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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post #190

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Giving up on your democratic representation is not going to make things better.

What democratic representation? > “The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Yeah that's what happens when over 40% of the voting public gives up like you. No representation.

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

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The monopoly is really the artists, who then delegate to the venues. Like, Bruce Springsteen ticket prices are high because only he is Bruce Springsteen and nobody else is. The real monopoly is on being Bruce Springsteen . Prices are high because of supply and demand for that artist ; Bruce Springsteen can only put on so many shows for so many seats and there is far more demand than that, no matter who is selling the…

> The market is set by what customers will pay [...] The Internet hivemind will always think it's entitled to ignore the laws of supply and demand And this is why "the market" isn't perfect, and flat-out sucks for some things. It doesn't have to be this way. Springsteen should be able to say "I want to charge $40 per ticket so my loyal fans, no matter what their financial situation, can see me perform", without havin…

If this were the case, you'd have a hundred million people wanting to pay that to see Springsteen but only a hundred thousand seats exist. How do you decide which of them gets the seats?

Re: US Justice Department to seek breakup of Live Nation-Ticketmaster

#260

The FTC and DoJ have been hitting it out of the park recently, unfortunately, there are a lot of judges out there that think corps should be able to do anything they want.

I couldn’t find a single major case that has brought meaningful change in the last 3 years since Biden was elected.

That’s not meant to be a political statement about Biden. But I’m assuming you are talking about the current DOJ/FTC.

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