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Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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dont you have to pay A huge deductible?

The deductible for a comprehensive claim is usually a lot lower, mine is only 100 USD while my collision deductible is 1k USD. Of course if you live somewhere with lots of crime this isn’t the case.

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Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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We're entering the age where having private, personal space is becoming almost impossible. If you have a conversation around your phone, you best believe that government actors can tap that mic. If you have a conversation at home, either your "smart" TV, fridge, or Google Home / Alexa is listening. Now, cars are just becoming tablets on wheels. In my Tesla, I am quite literally, being watched every time I drive. Ther…

Tesla does not divulge your location to law enforcement without a warrant, and stands out amongst other automakers who simply hand it over. They also were one of few automakers who wasn't selling your data to LexisNexis Risk Solutions for insurance pricing. https://www.tesla.com/legal/privacy https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driv... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39666976 https://www.ft…

And yet I trust Tesla less because I observe their CEO as erratic and unreliable.

I agree that facts are facts and weigh a lot, I can’t exactly shut off the human nature in me that simply does not trust anything that guy controls.

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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We're entering the age where having private, personal space is becoming almost impossible. If you have a conversation around your phone, you best believe that government actors can tap that mic. If you have a conversation at home, either your "smart" TV, fridge, or Google Home / Alexa is listening. Now, cars are just becoming tablets on wheels. In my Tesla, I am quite literally, being watched every time I drive. Ther…

> If you have a conversation around your phone, you best believe that government actors can tap that mic

please less ranting and more substance

> In my Tesla, I am quite literally, being watched every time I drive.

this is somehow new ?

> an internet-connected tracking device

yes, the phone has emboldened these products and the gloves are "off"

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dont you have to pay A huge deductible?

The deductible for a comprehensive claim is usually a lot lower, mine is only 100 USD while my collision deductible is 1k USD. Of course if you live somewhere with lots of crime this isn’t the case.

Still if it's like my car,took 3 months to pay out. Meanwhile you're SOL renting or busing, then you get the honor of repaying tax, title, and registration to the tune of like 10%. Getting your car totaled really sucks .

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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post #5

We're entering the age where having private, personal space is becoming almost impossible. If you have a conversation around your phone, you best believe that government actors can tap that mic. If you have a conversation at home, either your "smart" TV, fridge, or Google Home / Alexa is listening. Now, cars are just becoming tablets on wheels. In my Tesla, I am quite literally, being watched every time I drive. Ther…

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Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

#137

To take the counterpoint to most comments on this topic: It used to be impractical to track cars to fine granularity. Now that it is practical: maybe we want that? Cars are multi-ton, incredibly-expensive pieces of hardware that operate on shared roadways. There are about 42,000 deaths related to operating them each year. Increased tracking would simplify the challenges of * Finding stolen vehicles * Discovering the…

We could also just be less dependent on cars, but that's more difficult than mass surveillance. Also has the side effect of enabling dissidence rather than chilling it.

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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You can probably just enable Airplane Mode on your phone and expect that to work fine.

It's been since 3G that I delved into baseband specs in any depth, but I would not trust a powered up phone not to be commanded to connect to a network.

Or even a phone that is "off". Newer iphones (11+) can be found through the FindMy network, even when the device is off.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/21/ios-15-here-are-the-devices-t...

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

#139

This is exactly why I bought a car that has a fuse for the Data Communication Module (DCM) that I have pulled, and I will never buy another car unless I can physically disconnect anything in it that sends radio transmissions.

In my case I can’t drive my car then because the RF also handles the location beacon which is required for the class 3 alarm system which is needed for the insurance. Without insurance you can’t drive. So there are many situations where unfortunately this is not an option.

Re: Carmakers Will Give Your Location to Police Without a Warrant, Senators Say

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"Police will be able to remote stop/control your car without a warrant"

I can see that coming, thanks starlink /s

Speaking of remote control, this opens up ton of possibilities, specially for farmers, it already exist and i feel like we are not talking about it enough

Enough of these new javascript projects, let's promote more HW projects

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