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Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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CO2 for me and not for thee

The correct way to solve the market failure of externalities is taxation, not social shaming.

This isn't directed at swift as much as at the wealthy in general. What you might call social shaming, many people simply call transparency. Or, if you're going to tax my SUV more I'd like to find out if it impacts your corporate jet proportionally.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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post #27

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Do you think Elon is giving meaningful input on the design of robots, rockets or brainchips?

Andrej Karpathy has directly worked with him. Listen to what he says: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33703617

People belittle his technical ability because it hurts our ego to admit someone could exceed us at all the things we specifically value in our corner of the world: successful products, massive innovation, big brain smarts, money...

Nietzsche: "The vanity of others offends most, when it offends our own vanity."

No one here is threatened when Dave Grohl pumps out his 30th hit album, or when Steph and Lebron wipe the court with all the other players. But the idea that this Elon guy is not only richer, but also smarter and more ambitious and more innovative than any of us? That's unfair, it can't be so!!

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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> Of course, it’s worth pointing out that, unlike someone like Musk, Swift actually had a pretty good reason to travel a lot last year: she was on tour. Yes, because the richest man on the planet, heading up multiple billion dollar companies, couldn’t possibly have any legit reason to travel anywhere.

He's busy twittering, can just stay at home for that

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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I laughed out loud when I read that. Would expect nothing more from Gizmodo.

Its frustrating because it buries better points under mud. The effective way to reduce jet emissions is not to publicly rag on the people who have the money to use the service. I would go so far as to say that the author does not actually care about the subject at all, only perhaps being able to deride others to prop themselves up as not as bad as them. The subject as presented like this leaves little room for talk a…

More than that, it ignores the fundamental principle that America is founded on: I paid for it STFU. If there is actual market failure due to externalities then get the votes to raise the cost to cover the externalities (i.e though a carbon tax), but don't think your judgement calls on who should be able to do what should have any bearing on reality. Raise the price until your externality is properly priced or until you lose the political will to implement and then let everyone decide if they are buying or not at the new price. What made America great was recognizing everyone is too stupid to make any of these calls and letting individuals exercise their own judgement (and experience the costs of that judgement). It was a great system that worked wonders and was self regulating and we have drifted far too far from it.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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post #16

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It doesn't say he couldn't have any legit reason but less than an artist you gets paid to perform in front of an audience. I bet for many travels of Musk this would be true: "This Meeting Could Have Been an Email"

I really want to see you design rockets, robots and brainchips using email. Taylor Swift could have livestreamed on YouTube.

You really think Musk himself designed the rockets, robots and brain chips?

For clarification email is a metaphor for anything that could be done remotely, like designing rockets, robots and brain chips.

The Swift fans on the other hand pay to see her live, that's the USP of a concert.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Good news: Musk has done none of those things. At best he's distracted and interfered with people who did those things.

We have irrefutable evidence that Elon was the top executive at companies that did all those things, while you have no evidence that those things would have happened without him.

No need to prove it wouldn't have happened without him.

They already design new rockets, robots and chip without him being on site because he's busy with Twitter.

And I guess it's pretty easy for him to do a remote session if he needs to. He has his own Internet company.

Otherwise it's like driving a combustion car if you own a electric car company.

Doesn't mean he designed a rocket, robot or chip.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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billionaires love tracking our every move and whim for profit, but when it’s turned around on them, they don’t like it so much, and congress immediately goes to action. Should probably tell even an uninformed observer a few things about the state of affairs.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Good news: Musk has done none of those things. At best he's distracted and interfered with people who did those things.

I don't like Musk very much since he went nuts post breakup with his GF. But he does have meaningful input, technical design is not the only thing - other companies like Boeing, Blue Origin or Ariane have great engineers too, seems like technical design is not the most important part.

And you're telling me that's impossible without being on site?

Ever heard of web meetings or even telephone?

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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post #27

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Do you think Elon is giving meaningful input on the design of robots, rockets or brainchips?

Yes, I do. People working with him in SpaceX have said so. And in the other cases, his leadership, financial, business, product and marketing input is still a necessary part of the project that directly influences the technical decisions.

Doesn't need him to be on site.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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post #27

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Do you think Elon is giving meaningful input on the design of robots, rockets or brainchips?

Andrej Karpathy has directly worked with him. Listen to what he says: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33703617

There is a difference between understanding something if you get it explained and developing it at first.

Many understand Einstein's theory of relativity but few would have came up with.

He isn't some kind of Tony Stark who builds things himself.

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