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Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by paradite »

uuddlrlrbaba wrote: post #77
paradite wrote: post #70

I've considered self-hosting plausible but ultimately decided to pay for subscription instead, because I think self-hosting would cause more in terms of VPS hosting. The minimum requirements (4GB RAM) are too high because of the need to run two databases: https://github.com/plausible/community-edition/blob/v2.0.0/d... 4GB RAM costs $24/month on DigitalOcean: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/droplets In comparison…

Self hosting in the cloud can be a bit counterproductive price wise. You can run docker on a $100 USFF i7 pc and stuff 32G-64G and a big SSD in for cheap. That'll run for years and you could add a second host for redundancy. Depends on your maintenance and failure tolerance. Or you probably already have some spare hardware, maybe an old laptop kicking around.

Static ip is the problem where I live.

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by spiderfarmer »

This is still not very affordable for my use case. My small network of sites does around 400.000 pageviews per day. $120 per month is pretty steep for something I look at only a couple of times per month.

Ever since GA4 and the whole cookie banner thing I'm looking for something that is GDPR compliant, has basic functionality and is cheap.

But every time I look it comes down to self hosting.

Plausible relies on Clickhouse and I don't know Clickhouse. Umami relies on Mysql or Postgres with a pretty inefficient data scheme that cripples performance with the scale of my data.

Can't these services be made a lot cheaper (and faster) by doing data sampling like Google Analytics did?

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by arcanemachiner »

paradite wrote: post #81
uuddlrlrbaba wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self hosting in the cloud can be a bit counterproductive price wise. You can run docker on a $100 USFF i7 pc and stuff 32G-64G and a big SSD in for cheap. That'll run for years and you could add a second host for redundancy. Depends on your maintenance and failure tolerance. Or you probably already have some spare hardware, maybe an old laptop kicking around.

Static ip is the problem where I live.

You can use a free DDNS like DuckDNS.

https://www.duckdns.org/

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by a13n »

lindesvard wrote: post #45
a13n wrote: post #35

The group-level / account-level stuff is pretty big for B2B SaaS companies to be able to consider using it. And it's tucked away on one of Mixpanel's higher price plans.

Have missed this feature. Would love to hear more and how I could implement this feature. Is it a flag/field in the SDK that tells you I’m from a specific company or is it some black magic?

Yeah generally the customer will specify which "group" a user belongs to when calling your SDK/API.

Mixpanel's docs: https://docs.mixpanel.com/docs/data-structure/advanced/group...

Segment's docs: https://segment.com/docs/connections/spec/group/

In B2B SaaS, it's a lot more important to understand which customers are using which features, not which users. One customer can have many users, and one user can belong to multiple companies.

This is pretty much a must have for B2B SaaS even though it's always tucked away in expensive plans with tools like Mixpanel and Amplitude.

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by paradite »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #83
paradite wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Static ip is the problem where I live.

You can use a free DDNS like DuckDNS. https://www.duckdns.org/

Cool! Didn't know there's a free service. Gonna give it a try this weekend!

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by slig »

paradite wrote: post #81
uuddlrlrbaba wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self hosting in the cloud can be a bit counterproductive price wise. You can run docker on a $100 USFF i7 pc and stuff 32G-64G and a big SSD in for cheap. That'll run for years and you could add a second host for redundancy. Depends on your maintenance and failure tolerance. Or you probably already have some spare hardware, maybe an old laptop kicking around.

Static ip is the problem where I live.

You don't have to worry about that anymore if you don't want to. Cloudflare has a Tunnel service where your service connects to CF.

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by jordo »

REALLY looking forward to trying this. Mixpanel has the most obscure pricing model of any SAAS i've ever tried to integrate with... When we 'upgraded' from their free tier to a paid tier we were DOWNGRADED from 20M events a month to 10K events a month. Does that make any sense??? They talk about 'transparent and easy to understand pricing', but immediately after I upgraded to a paid plan we were downgraded from 20M events to 10K events.

We actually immediately cancelled our paid plan and went back to their free tier. To match what they provide in their free tier (20M events), the cost is $2,289 USD / month (no thanks). https://mixpanel.com/pricing/plan-builder/?dcv=growth

So basically we can either pay $2,289 USD / month, or pay nothing, and still get the same number of tracked events. Just bizzare... We've moved on, and I've been on the search for an alternative ever since.

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by stevenicr »

jordo wrote: post #88

REALLY looking forward to trying this. Mixpanel has the most obscure pricing model of any SAAS i've ever tried to integrate with... When we 'upgraded' from their free tier to a paid tier we were DOWNGRADED from 20M events a month to 10K events a month. Does that make any sense??? They talk about 'transparent and easy to understand pricing', but immediately after I upgraded to a paid plan we were downgraded from 20M e…

omg - I tried to sell a client into using mixpanel for about three months.

I could never explain (or honestly understand) events, and even though I had raw server data, g analytics data and cloudflare analytics data - I still don't understand what constitutes an event or number of events, or what it may cost.

So we just killed the google and cloudflare stats and never signed up for the free tier in the firs place.

Free stats are fine.

Re: Show HN: Openpanel – An open-source alternative to Mixpanel

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Post by lindesvard »

jordo wrote: post #88

REALLY looking forward to trying this. Mixpanel has the most obscure pricing model of any SAAS i've ever tried to integrate with... When we 'upgraded' from their free tier to a paid tier we were DOWNGRADED from 20M events a month to 10K events a month. Does that make any sense??? They talk about 'transparent and easy to understand pricing', but immediately after I upgraded to a paid plan we were downgraded from 20M e…

The pricing modal is a black hole sadly... I hope you will give openpanel a shot
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