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Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by lolinder »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #19
koolba wrote: post #8

> Of course, it’s worth pointing out that, unlike someone like Musk, Swift actually had a pretty good reason to travel a lot last year: she was on tour. Yes, because the richest man on the planet, heading up multiple billion dollar companies, couldn’t possibly have any legit reason to travel anywhere.

Nobody (apart from the dolt who wrote this anyway) is arguing he or Swift or anyone else doesn't have a reason to travel. You don't need a reason. That said, in times such as ours when we're all being told via our media and legislation passed that we need to be more eco-friendly, it's a slap in the face (and I'll say, it's 2 slaps from Musk who's fortune has been greatly bolstered by AMPLE Federal subsidies for green…

> Nobody's arguing he or Swift or anyone else doesn't have a reason to travel

The article literally says that Musk did not have a "pretty good reason to travel a lot last year":

> unlike someone like Musk, Swift actually had a pretty good reason to travel a lot last year

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by Arainach »

throwaway51081 wrote: post #21
croes wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't say he couldn't have any legit reason but less than an artist you gets paid to perform in front of an audience. I bet for many travels of Musk this would be true: "This Meeting Could Have Been an Email"

I really want to see you design rockets, robots and brainchips using email. Taylor Swift could have livestreamed on YouTube.

Good news: Musk has done none of those things. At best he's distracted and interfered with people who did those things.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by Ekaros »

zellyn wrote: post #18

Am I wrong in thinking that if the same person uses the same plane for multiple, documentable trips, or if they are spotted entering or exiting their plane, it should be possible to de-anonymize their flight data?

In case of some celebrity wouldn't it be pretty simple to analyse flights and compare them to known appearances. Like say concerts. If same plane appears to visit a city where same person make appearances very close, it seems pretty reasonable they are one using it.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by markhalonen »

koolba wrote: post #8

> Of course, it’s worth pointing out that, unlike someone like Musk, Swift actually had a pretty good reason to travel a lot last year: she was on tour. Yes, because the richest man on the planet, heading up multiple billion dollar companies, couldn’t possibly have any legit reason to travel anywhere.

one starts to understand the imperative of colonizing mars...

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by elevatedastalt »

lbwtaylor wrote: post #12

Taylor Swift doesn't care that "it’s just way too easy for random people on the internet to monitor how much fuel exhaust they waste" She wants privacy, as is amply demonstrated by her actions on this topic. There is zero evidence that she cares about people monitoring her fuel use. The article goes even further off the deep end, suggesting Swift is trying to game search engines to bury jet fuel stories, with zero ev…

Dunno why you were downvoted. This is exactly it. Taylor and Musk would be okay if there was just an annual report saying "Taylor's jetsetting caused X tons of CO2 emissions". What is NOT OK is someone effectively able to put a tracker on her movements.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by kotaKat »

IvyMike wrote: post #30

I'm curious exactly what this means. I mean, the plane will still be broadcasting ADS-B info of some sort, right? If it's an empty registration number, well, to quote The Simpsons, "We'll look for the house with no numbers."

It just means when you go to look up the registration via https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/search/nnumberinqui... instead of getting registrant data you just get "yes this plane exists" or something similar.

Unlike cars, you could just see who owned a plane based on its tail number without any sort of special access. People DO try to hide that by using shell companies, but you can still track those shell companies.

AKA... people will just have to spread the word what people use what planes with what N-numbers. It's not like we don't already know the tail number of these people's jets or their transponder codes in the sky, no matter what they do.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by throwaway51081 »

malfist wrote: post #27
throwaway51081 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really want to see you design rockets, robots and brainchips using email. Taylor Swift could have livestreamed on YouTube.

Do you think Elon is giving meaningful input on the design of robots, rockets or brainchips?

Yes, I do. People working with him in SpaceX have said so. And in the other cases, his leadership, financial, business, product and marketing input is still a necessary part of the project that directly influences the technical decisions.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by gregors »

consp wrote: post #22
gregors wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wealthy people have enough sway to get the laws written they want. It's nothing new. Our politicians are legally bought and paid servants.

> Our politicians are legally bought and paid servants. Isn't that illegal? (... withdraws into ignorance cave)

Bribery is illegal, but lobbying is completely legal

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0912/the-differe...

That being said, off the books "I really want this" probably carries some weight when it comes from large donors I'd imagine. Is that bribery?

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by ImAnAmateur »

system2 wrote: post #29

A few hundred years from now these private jet flying douche bags will be remembered as the most evil creatures of our time.

No they won't. If you care so much, why do you not care more about the laws that give them full permission to do this?

Edit: I'm being too harsh. To rephrase: No, I don't think they will. I think that history will sooner put the blame on society and government as a whole. The people flying private jets do not do so in a vaccuum.

Re: Congress Just Made It Basically Impossible to Track Taylor Swift's Private Jet

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Post by throwaway51081 »

Arainach wrote: post #32
throwaway51081 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really want to see you design rockets, robots and brainchips using email. Taylor Swift could have livestreamed on YouTube.

Good news: Musk has done none of those things. At best he's distracted and interfered with people who did those things.

I don't like Musk very much since he went nuts post breakup with his GF. But he does have meaningful input, technical design is not the only thing - other companies like Boeing, Blue Origin or Ariane have great engineers too, seems like technical design is not the most important part.
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