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How many non-Amazon warehouse worked are on food stamps or Medicaid? Without that comparison this title is just flame bait.

What’s the point of a job, if you can’t live on it?

If you feel anger when reading that the largest and most profitable companies in the world won’t pay a living wage, the. You should be. There isn’t two side to simple greed and exploitation.

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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What percentage of non-amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps? We all love to hate Amazon, but such statistics are meaningless without context.

I dont agree. It's more about the relative income from the warehouse workers to the CEO. Even if the post office has the exact same percentage of workers on food stamps, I would argue that because the postmaster general makes so much less than Amazon leadership that Amazon has the privilege and ability to do better, and still run a profitable business. It's about profit, and sharing it more equitably.

Amazon is famously not very profitable, mostly because they reinvest everything in growth.

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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What percentage of non-amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps? We all love to hate Amazon, but such statistics are meaningless without context.

I dont agree. It's more about the relative income from the warehouse workers to the CEO. Even if the post office has the exact same percentage of workers on food stamps, I would argue that because the postmaster general makes so much less than Amazon leadership that Amazon has the privilege and ability to do better, and still run a profitable business. It's about profit, and sharing it more equitably.

If Amazon took the CEO’s salary and reduced it to zero and distributed the savings to every line employee, how much money would each line employee get?

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, it's mostly a sign that benefits are working. Giving workers benefits /increases/ their compensation because it increases their negotiating power. This means they're earning more than they otherwise would. Not less. If it was less, that would mean benefits are bad and we should take them away!

It's essentially just a subsidy to large employers? So they can not pay their employees enough? Is this what these programs are intended for? I didn't understand it that way but maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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... Just like Walmart. It's a shame.

It's not, it's mostly a sign that benefits are working. Giving workers benefits /increases/ their compensation because it increases their negotiating power. This means they're earning more than they otherwise would. Not less. If it was less, that would mean benefits are bad and we should take them away!

I assume Amazon pushes down wages accordingly and is happy that the public subsidizes their margins.

Why would they give someone more because they come to them with no alternative and under pressure from the government to take any Job.

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What percentage of non-amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps? We all love to hate Amazon, but such statistics are meaningless without context.

No one who can hold down a job and is currently employed should need government assistance to survive. Doesn’t matter if it’s Amazon or its competitors.

It's not the government assistance that's the problem (that shouldn't carry a stigma per se) - it's the fact that Amazon doesn't pay for it's own externalities (if you can call workforce exploitation an "externality")

Imagine a scenario where "assistance" wasn't stigmatized and Amazon had to pay higher taxes fully proportionate with the cost of paying it's employees properly?

I mean - at that point they might as well pay people properly!

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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How many non-Amazon warehouse worked are on food stamps or Medicaid? Without that comparison this title is just flame bait.

What’s the point of a job, if you can’t live on it? If you feel anger when reading that the largest and most profitable companies in the world won’t pay a living wage, the. You should be. There isn’t two side to simple greed and exploitation.

"Living wage" assumes you're the head of a household, so it's a pretty incoherent idea applied to just anyone. You can live on pretty much anything as long as another member of the household can supply the rest.

Minimum wage increases generally do not negatively affect employment, but if you set the minimum wage high enough to be a head of household "living wage", it certainly would make people unemployed.

Or instead we could pay people welfare benefits and support them that way.

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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What percentage of non-amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps? We all love to hate Amazon, but such statistics are meaningless without context.

I'm seeing about 19% on Medicaid and about 12.5% are on Food Stamps. In theory that could be up to 1/3, but there's presumably a lot of overlap... so maybe 25% give or take?

Re: One-third of Amazon warehouse workers are on food stamps or Medicaid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, it's mostly a sign that benefits are working. Giving workers benefits /increases/ their compensation because it increases their negotiating power. This means they're earning more than they otherwise would. Not less. If it was less, that would mean benefits are bad and we should take them away!

It's essentially just a subsidy to large employers? So they can not pay their employees enough? Is this what these programs are intended for? I didn't understand it that way but maybe I'm wrong.

It is in effect a subsidy to employers, while still being a benefit to employees.

As prior evidence shows, there is always someone willing to work for less, if they have to. As such, the only real solution to the issue that does not make the economic situation worse for employees is to punish corporations for paying so little that their employees need benefits from the government.

Anything else only hurts the employees or provides greater subsidy to the employer.

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