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Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by echelon_musk »

jerlam wrote: post #39
Pfhortune wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That and the social isolation from trying use a phone that can't keep up with the activities and communication preferences of friends makes an iPhone a necessary compromise. I am still shocked at how much blue bubbles seem to affect some folk's social lives. Does it really matter that much?

I don't think it is referring to iMessage (blue bubbles). But to install the messenger du jour on an Android phone with a custom ROM may not be easy or well-supported.

Yes, this.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by SahAssar »

Regarding the maps thing...

> My dad’s house wasn’t on the map. Neither was my mom’s house. Neither was my friend’s place. Obviously I can’t use apps based on OpenStreetMaps to get me places if the places I want to go aren’t on the map.

What do they mean by not on the map? Is it not showing up in search? Is it the housenumber wasn't there? Is it the street not existing at all? If manually zooming to the place was it showing with the correct street and number?

I'm curious since I've found OSM coverage to be pretty good for things like streets and housenumbers since they are generally based on imported data, no?

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by deadly_penguin »

Qision wrote: post #35

I would have been curious to read about WhatsApp since it is a widely used app. Also for youtube I use NewPipe which I find incredibly good (no ads, can manage playlists and audio only).

Yes, WhatsApp works perfectly fine (including notifications) on plain Lineage - even without microg.

It doesn't integrate with Lineage's backup system though, you have to use WhatsApp's own transfer system.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by jcul »

> Graphene describes itself as “The private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility”. Like yeah no shit you have Android app compatibility. YOU’RE FUCKING ANDROID. For some reason custom roms like to advertise themselves as their own OS that can run android apps. You’re not your own OS you’re just a distro of android. Quit trying to sound more unique than you are.

This is a little unfair.

Graphene does not come with any google apps installed by default (of course android itself is a google product, whether running calx, graphene, or lineage).

It gives you the option to install google apps like the play store, but these are installed like any other app. You can restrict permissions, deny internet access etc. But they are totally optional.

Also, a nitpick, but these are all android, including lineage os.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by jcul »

SahAssar wrote: post #42

Regarding the maps thing... > My dad’s house wasn’t on the map. Neither was my mom’s house. Neither was my friend’s place. Obviously I can’t use apps based on OpenStreetMaps to get me places if the places I want to go aren’t on the map. What do they mean by not on the map? Is it not showing up in search? Is it the housenumber wasn't there? Is it the street not existing at all? If manually zooming to the place was it…

Yeah this is surprising to me too.

Also, you can contribute to osm if a street was missing.

The complaint about having to download the map seems unreasonable too.

It downloads the world map and then the local map and you're done. Generally the local map for an area is like 50 to 100MB from memory.

Perhaps they are in a very remote location with slow internet and no map data, but downloading the lineage ROM would be a lot slower than downloading a single map.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by jcul »

SushiHippie wrote: post #20
tetris11 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> LineageOS has their own implementation of gapps Really? Every installation I've seen with Lineage is to flash microG or MindTheGapps separately I've used lineage for a few years now with only Magisk as an extra zip (no gapps) and I have not seen any google activity.

I think potatoball is talking about the connectivity checks https://grapheneos.org/features#privacy-by-default

Also there are some GPS / location helper stuff that grafene proxies through its own servers by default, but you can switch to google's.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by jcul »

Ender-events wrote: post #25

I've been using sailfish os with android app support + microg for over 5 years. It work for my daily low usage (browser, music, sometime bank) but missing nfc + bluetooth on andoid vm > Graphene describes itself as “The private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility”. Like yeah no shit you have Android app compatibility. YOU’RE FUCKING ANDROID. If I remember an anecdote from the android cou…

I was really tempted to try sailfish a few times in the past.

Do you have any issues with banking apps?

It's a little scandalous that using a bank is so difficult these days without a smart phone.

Re: Degoogled Android – My Experience

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Post by em-bee »

bitfilped wrote: post #8

Shame the author immediately threw out grapheneos "because they purley focus on privacy", the user experience is much better than lineage these days.

also completely missed /e/OS-murena. based on lineage, de-googled and customized to be very user friendly. microg is available but optional.

if graphene or calyx don't fit, then /e/OS is really the best option from all the remaining alternatives.

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