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Re: Physicists now question the fate of the Universe

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Post by vletal »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

This kind of reserach, which comes with new ideas which better explain our observations, helps balance exactly the blind faith in religion.

People will always ask "where everything came from" questions. And if there is no science with plausible big-bang => background radiation... theories, you can just as easily return back to creationism.

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Post by Aardwolf »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

Not sure about whether it's falsifiable or not, but maybe it can affect quality of life?

I mean, imagine we do find the answer to a cause of the big bang or the fate of the end of the universe, there might as well be some knowledge in there that allows new kinds of engineering that can be useful for daily life

E.g. (silly example): understanding how to create a big bang might allow creating an entire universe from scratch with minimal compute resources, in which we can then game

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Post by 2four2 »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

No one is claiming that their speculative models and hypotheses are "truth". Before sufficient evidence is available, you start with a model and a hypothesis, which drives the search for evidence. Then it becomes falsifiable once you gather the evidence. I think you may have missed the explanation of science where the first step is to create a guess and that drives your experiments.

As far as "not affecting your quality of life at all", people have been saying this about cutting edge science since forever. "Time can't be relative, it's just scientists playing with math. Besides, we'll never travel fast enough for it to matter and it doesn't affect our lives anyway." Yet time dilation is an important factor in your daily life if you ever used GPS.

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Post by tempaway355751 »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

The whole point of the article is that recent observations are making them rethink their model

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Post by yowzadave »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

> just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all

A lot of people like to pursue knowledge purely out of curiosity. Some people even think that having a good quality of life means that there is room for these sorts of conversations!

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Post by hgyjnbdet »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

I don't know, there's many "useless" things done that at a later date have been found to be beneficial in areas not intended be the original experimenter.

Re: Physicists now question the fate of the Universe

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Post by tiborsaas »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

I kinda agree about researching the end of the Universe, but the birth of the Universe and black holes a pretty relevant to modern day science. We don't have a theory of quantum gravity, we have a singularity at the big-bang, etc.

Finding a theory of everything could unlock many new practical improvements. Falsifiability not only happens when you can disprove something with a physical experiment. You can't trigger another big-bang, but with a better model, you can falsify the currently accepted theory because it makes a prediction.

Thinking about the end of the universe is not that pointless though. It's tending towards philosophy, which could make people think what's our role in the world, can we at some point exist again, I think the list is long.

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Post by NegativeLatency »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #10

This kind of research is non-falsifiable and I think it's just a waste of these scientists' talents. You will hear never-ending theories of the Big Bang, black holes, and the end of the universe because all this research is non-falsifiable and just people playing with math and coming up with different ideas that humans find interesting, but will not affect your quality of life at all. Science has to be falsifiable or…

You might enjoy the tv show Connections.

Sometimes “useless” facts, theories and discoveries become useful. Like say Boolean algebra.

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