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In Australia they are the same price ($1.9k AUD vs $1.6k for MacBook air). How much where you're at?
M3 15" air with 24gb ram and 1tb ssd is 3400 australian dollars
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An equivalent-specced Surface laptop would be the following specs: - 13" or 15" screen - Snapdragon X Elite (which still doesn't match M3 performance) - 16 GB memory - 512 GB SSD Surface laptop price is $1399 (13") or $1499 (15"), which is $100 cheaper for the 13" vs the equivalent MBA, and $200 cheaper for the equivalent MBA 15". The Snapdragon X Plus, which is what it looks like you priced out, is quite inferior to…
In single core performance... In multi-core from what I've seen X Plus is faster than base M3.
Single: 3088 Multi: 11595
Non-production Elite X From Anandtech[1]:
Single: 2800 Multi: 14400
Non-production Plus X From Anandtech[1]:
Single: 2425 Multi: 13100
Slower single perf for both Snapdragons. Decent 10% jump in multi over the M3. I am eager to see how the production units will pan out on benchmarks and sustained performance.
Qualcomm's been shady in the past with their so-called "Apple killer" chip benchmarks. I don't think these are "Apple killers", but I hope it pans out, for competition's sake.
1. https://www.anandtech.com/show/21364/qualcomm-intros-snapdra...
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US. Canada. Probably other regions. A Surface Laptop with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is $1200 USD. A M3 MBA with with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is $1500.
An equivalent-specced Surface laptop would be the following specs: - 13" or 15" screen - Snapdragon X Elite (which still doesn't match M3 performance) - 16 GB memory - 512 GB SSD Surface laptop price is $1399 (13") or $1499 (15"), which is $100 cheaper for the 13" vs the equivalent MBA, and $200 cheaper for the equivalent MBA 15". The Snapdragon X Plus, which is what it looks like you priced out, is quite inferior to…
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
An equivalent-specced Surface laptop would be the following specs: - 13" or 15" screen - Snapdragon X Elite (which still doesn't match M3 performance) - 16 GB memory - 512 GB SSD Surface laptop price is $1399 (13") or $1499 (15"), which is $100 cheaper for the 13" vs the equivalent MBA, and $200 cheaper for the equivalent MBA 15". The Snapdragon X Plus, which is what it looks like you priced out, is quite inferior to…
In single core performance... In multi-core from what I've seen X Plus is faster than base M3.
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US. Canada. Probably other regions. A Surface Laptop with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is $1200 USD. A M3 MBA with with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is $1500.
An equivalent-specced Surface laptop would be the following specs: - 13" or 15" screen - Snapdragon X Elite (which still doesn't match M3 performance) - 16 GB memory - 512 GB SSD Surface laptop price is $1399 (13") or $1499 (15"), which is $100 cheaper for the 13" vs the equivalent MBA, and $200 cheaper for the equivalent MBA 15". The Snapdragon X Plus, which is what it looks like you priced out, is quite inferior to…
X Plus and X Elite NPU hit 45 TOPS. M4 is 38 TOPS...
Also, as far I know, Elite does match M3. Actually, Qualcomm promise that even X Plus is able to match it, as they say Elite is better than M3.
We'll have to wait to see more benchmarks.
PS: There's 3 Elite series.
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For the price of these new laptops one can already buy a MacBook with a general purpose GPU that is more than capable of running these models. One can buy a windows laptop with a dedicated graphics card that can also run these models. Perhaps it would be interesting if the price was substantially lower.
These new laptops are half the price of macbooks with the same ram and storage
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These new laptops are half the price of macbooks with the same ram and storage
But not same performance. One of the reason QC not releasing anything but controlled benchmarks is most likely the subpar performance of Windows on ARM. This will be the biggest hurdle for QC Elite chips, competing with M-seried which is design in tandem with MacOS.
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#38https://github.com/microsoft/Phi-3CookBook/blob/main/md/04.F...
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#39My use case is very simple: take 1000 word documents filled with two to three pages of information and pictures. And then output a set of requested information via prompting. Is there something off the shelf? Or do I have to make this?
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These new laptops are half the price of macbooks with the same ram and storage
But not same performance. One of the reason QC not releasing anything but controlled benchmarks is most likely the subpar performance of Windows on ARM. This will be the biggest hurdle for QC Elite chips, competing with M-seried which is design in tandem with MacOS.