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The Effects of Early Relational Trauma (2001) [pdf]

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One book that really resonated with me was "The Deepest Well" about the epidemic of childhood trauma and its deep and measurable impact on health outcomes for adults. I learned that resolving childhood trauma would help on the order of curing cancer in terms of health outcomes in our society https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33413909-the-deepest-wel...

This stuff is almost too scary for me to read. My childhood was awful and only around age 30 did my life start to get "better".

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Re: The Effects of Early Relational Trauma (2001) [pdf]

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One book that really resonated with me was "The Deepest Well" about the epidemic of childhood trauma and its deep and measurable impact on health outcomes for adults. I learned that resolving childhood trauma would help on the order of curing cancer in terms of health outcomes in our society https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33413909-the-deepest-wel...

This stuff is almost too scary for me to read. My childhood was awful and only around age 30 did my life start to get "better".

First 20 years of my life was me waiting to get out of the environment I was in. The next 5 trying to stay alive. The past 5 improving myself, my mental health, the way I view life and relate to others.

It's all good in the end. For 25 years of my life I thought everyone faked being happy. I now know that it actually is possible to be happy :).

Re: The Effects of Early Relational Trauma (2001) [pdf]

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One book that really resonated with me was "The Deepest Well" about the epidemic of childhood trauma and its deep and measurable impact on health outcomes for adults. I learned that resolving childhood trauma would help on the order of curing cancer in terms of health outcomes in our society https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33413909-the-deepest-wel...

I'm a former foster parent and I think we are likely to cure cancer long before we resolve childhood trauma.

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Are children more traumatized now than in the past? Seems like the past was harder on children.

I think it’s more visible now, but as well, I wonder if it’s just that we have more leisure time to actually worry about / deal with it.

Personally I think every child needs some sort of effective therapy to help heal the trauma of their formative years.

I use trauma freely here, there’s quite a big difference between someone who was bullied a couple of times and is naturally quite resilient vs someone who was mercilessly bullied for years on end pushing them to the brink of life.

I classify both as trauma, very different degrees though.

As well, people react very differently to similar events.

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They will say the same thing in 100 years.

Who says that? I think it’s only a question from the commenter above.

It's the thesis of Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature. It's not an uncommon sentiment. Maybe we run in different circles.

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Are children more traumatized now than in the past? Seems like the past was harder on children.

The effects of trauma are not new. What's new is we have a deeper understanding of how it comes about, what the long-term effects are on both an individual and societal level, and what can be done to prevent or remedy it.

we also talk a big game about caring about it but then still shove traumatized people to the margins.

Like honestly, should we prevent suicides then continue treating people the way they were treated pre attempt?

Weird idea of empathy.

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This stuff is almost too scary for me to read. My childhood was awful and only around age 30 did my life start to get "better".

First 20 years of my life was me waiting to get out of the environment I was in. The next 5 trying to stay alive. The past 5 improving myself, my mental health, the way I view life and relate to others. It's all good in the end. For 25 years of my life I thought everyone faked being happy. I now know that it actually is possible to be happy :).

I get that feeling of feeling like everyone is faking being happy, and I'm glad that you've found a way to overcome it.

For me, I've always struggled with being overly cynical. I can't let nice moments be, and I can't let accomplishments lie.

I feel like I'm somewhere on the journey you are on, and I hope to get to the same destination.

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The effects of trauma are not new. What's new is we have a deeper understanding of how it comes about, what the long-term effects are on both an individual and societal level, and what can be done to prevent or remedy it.

we also talk a big game about caring about it but then still shove traumatized people to the margins. Like honestly, should we prevent suicides then continue treating people the way they were treated pre attempt? Weird idea of empathy.

Who is we? You talk like there is some hypocrisy here but you’re treating all people as one person. Mental health researchers and workers advocate for more support for people across the board. Politicians don’t give a shit because their constituents, on the whole, don’t either.

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In the microplastics thread, so many were ready to assign blame for so many pervasive ills to the prevalence of microplastics.

Meanwhile we have known about the devastating effect of interpersonal trauma in childhood and just shrug or worse, say “well that’s how my parents did it and I’m fine.”

Foundationally there is no problem more urgent than eliminating interpersonal alienation at every possible interaction and eliminating alienating systems.

You can’t innovate your way out of the problems a society with no trust causes.

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we also talk a big game about caring about it but then still shove traumatized people to the margins. Like honestly, should we prevent suicides then continue treating people the way they were treated pre attempt? Weird idea of empathy.

Who is we? You talk like there is some hypocrisy here but you’re treating all people as one person. Mental health researchers and workers advocate for more support for people across the board. Politicians don’t give a shit because their constituents, on the whole, don’t either.

I have powerful anecdotal hypocrisy from the closest people in my life.

They work in mental health, but intentionally to a degree much higher than neglect, and over recent and long periods of time: kick people while they’re down, not limited to me.

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