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How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by mirsadm »

nolist_policy wrote: post #126
berkes wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development Wait? Whom has these expectations? I presumed most in the tech industry scoff at anything Google launches, point at Google Graveyard or at all the failures they've been through. Seriously: aside from search, ads and android, what product has Google developed ever that is of high quality and meeting the high qual…

Chrome, Chromebooks and Android. Non-Products: Kubernetes and MGLRU.

Android is anything but high quality. There are so many baffling and poorly thought out ideas it's a dumpster fire.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by z0r »

berkes wrote: post #79
tmpz22 wrote: post #59

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> how does anyone find this acceptable? Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development. The expectations are now too high, much like the executives who pushed this feature.

> Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development Wait? Whom has these expectations? I presumed most in the tech industry scoff at anything Google launches, point at Google Graveyard or at all the failures they've been through. Seriously: aside from search, ads and android, what product has Google developed ever that is of high quality and meeting the high qual…

Photos is my favorite Google product (that isn't gmail and search circa 2004 - 2010ish)

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

skilled wrote: post #103
NayamAmarshe wrote: post #72

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AI bubble? I wouldn't expect it but would be interesting to see if your prediction holds true.

I think it’s safe to assume that in the next few years almost all consumer hardware will be able to run a local LLM comfortably. And no one knows if LLMs can go beyond GPT-4 in a way that will genuinely blow people away.

> And no one knows if LLMs can go beyond GPT-4 in a way that will genuinely blow people away.

Yeah that's a good point but a lot of people are now investing in this area so we might see more innovation happening in the space.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by callalex »

z0r wrote: post #132
berkes wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development Wait? Whom has these expectations? I presumed most in the tech industry scoff at anything Google launches, point at Google Graveyard or at all the failures they've been through. Seriously: aside from search, ads and android, what product has Google developed ever that is of high quality and meeting the high qual…

Photos is my favorite Google product (that isn't gmail and search circa 2004 - 2010ish)

Hopefully it won’t get Picasa’d

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by sergiomattei »

jstummbillig wrote: post #66

Considering how much Google search has shaped my life, I am somewhat* surprised by the amount of people in this thread, who apparently have zero tolerance for continued innovation in this area and the rough edges it brings. *Oh well, it's hn, after all

As a counterpoint to what’s happening in the thread; I’ve found this new feature quite useful.

It saves me a lot of time when searching trivial things.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by rurp »

jstummbillig wrote: post #66

Considering how much Google search has shaped my life, I am somewhat* surprised by the amount of people in this thread, who apparently have zero tolerance for continued innovation in this area and the rough edges it brings. *Oh well, it's hn, after all

This phrasing is pretty biased and something I most often see from product managers who are pushing changes that aren't in most user's interests. Many product changes that Google makes these days are driven by promotions and/or increasing revenue, not to make products better for end users. You can refer to all changes as "innovation", but it's going to sound unreasonable to most.

Also, characterizing people who object to one specific change as having "zero tolerance for continued innovation" is ridiculous and innacurate.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by skydhash »

latexr wrote: post #100
jstummbillig wrote: post #66

Considering how much Google search has shaped my life, I am somewhat* surprised by the amount of people in this thread, who apparently have zero tolerance for continued innovation in this area and the rough edges it brings. *Oh well, it's hn, after all

You’re projecting your own life experience into other people instead of empathising with different experiences and trying to understand where they come from. People don’t “have zero tolerance for continued innovation”¹, they’re tired of companies shoving shit down our throats and hailing deficient technology as the second coming of Christ. Sundar Pichai called this “more profound than fire and electricity”, for cryin…

The worst is when actual innovation get thrown out (by buying companies and enshitifying them) or when something is done, but they go and break it (because growth).

As a customer, it feels like companies don’t care about your needs and wants. Like Slack and Dropbox enabling content scanning without consent.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by skydhash »

gigatexal wrote: post #55

I’m not an AI maximalist by any means but something that summarizes things that I already have context for like “syntax to do X in language Y” I’d much rather see a summary than an ad riddled webpage.

These days I go back to hoarding links and downloading manuals. I much prefer to do the manual search work instead of enduring the falsehoods. And learning compounds.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by izacus »

mminer237 wrote: post #130
izacus wrote: post #78

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The Google stock is at record value. Google revenue is at record value. Google profit is at record value. You seem to be operating on a concept of "good ideas" that are disconnected from what the owners of Google (= stockholders) want. Google is still performing exceedingly well for what their owners want. Always follow the money.

I know that view is popular, but it seems so short-sighted. Most companies can increase profit whenever they want, but driving out innovators and abusing goodwill never works out long-term. Look at IBM, Oracle, Intel, Boeing, US Steel, GE, Commodore, Quiznos, etc. I feel like the Google's stock holders are just getting the wool pulled over their eyes. An increase in profit often means a cannibalization of value.

People create, join and own corporation to get monetary profit from them. That's it.

Is it broken? Yep. But the solution isn't going to be griping about a company doing what companies are built to do.

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