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Post by mynameisvlad »

LoganDark wrote: post #102
mynameisvlad wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, sure, but that doesn't mean that Parsec uses central servers by default, which was the entire point of the GP comment; that their servers are worse than Nvidia's.

Parsec uses whatever server you tell it to. Parsec will discover servers on LAN and/or with a port open and display them as distinct entries in the connection list, usually positioned in front of the central server options. So there's no default as you're always the one choosing.

What? No. That's not how Parsec works at all. Are you talking about the same app?

Parsec displays computers to connect to. If a hole can be punched, it will use a P2P connection. If not, it automatically falls back to their STUN servers or the Parsec Relay server if you're on the Teams plan. There is no "server" to choose from. There aren't multiple entries for a single computer with different connection options. I don't know where you hallucinated all of these things but that's just not how Parsec works.

This article makes it quite clear that P2P is the default with a fallback to STUN: https://support.parsec.app/hc/en-us/articles/4440911373325-P...

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by mynameisvlad »

LoganDark wrote: post #101
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you use zerotier / tailscale

Because those aren't peer-to-peer in reality. They're peer-to-peer in terms of a virtual network that's often (not necessarily, but certainly in this case) implemented using a central server anyway.

How is Tailscale not P2P? Just because there's a central server for discovery and key exchange does not somehow make it not peer-to-peer.

If the actual communications between two clients is P2P then, by definition, the VPN is P2P. Because that's the actual part people are talking about when they talk about VPNs.

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by aborsy »

LoganDark wrote: post #101
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you use zerotier / tailscale

Because those aren't peer-to-peer in reality. They're peer-to-peer in terms of a virtual network that's often (not necessarily, but certainly in this case) implemented using a central server anyway.

Those are peer to peer. The coordination server manages the public keys, and exchanges the ip addresses initially. After that peers connect directly.

Relays are involved only briefly initially.

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by gymbeaux »

mattlondon wrote: post #105
gymbeaux wrote: post #95

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Tell me about the server in your attic. I’m in Florida and so putting tech in my attic seems like a bad idea. Is your attic/loft air conditioned? Do you live in a cold climate? My RTX 3090 is literally unusable upstairs. I have it in a closet downstairs and that closet gets quite toasty, but I would imagine the Florida attic will take it to junction temp at idle. I’ve also thought about putting some kind of ventilati…

I live in London so heat is not really that much of a concern. It can get hot in the summer (30+c is not uncommon) but so far it has not caused any problems, but then I only have medium-range CPU and GPU (i5 something and 1060 or 1070 GPU IIRC - can't remember as I use it so infrequently, most of my time is with a X1 carbon laptop and streaming from GFN so barely use the desktop in the loft and it is sitting idling a…

Right on, thank you

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by flipbrad »

mminer237 wrote: post #81
flipbrad wrote: post #58

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First, you take USD4-5 off that in tax. Then more for support, finance and and marketing. Then electricity, bandwidth and insurance. Then games licences. Then hw...

Corporate tax is a flat 21%, and that's on profit, not revenue. I don't believe Nvidia pays anything for "licenses" either. There's no way that overhead should make them unprofitable even at retail prices.

I was thinking of sales tax / VAT.

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by kakamiokatsu »

whazor wrote: post #51
PrivateButts wrote: post #19

Wait, I thought that you need either a hacked driver or a very expensive license to split up Nvidia GPUs, even within containers?

Shout out to Wolf, which on Linux actually allows you to run multiple sessions on one GPU: https://github.com/games-on-whales/wolf

Thanks for the unexpected shout-out to Wolf (I'm the main dev behind it)!

Re: Show HN: Open-source GeForce NOW alternative with Stadia's social features

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Post by LoganDark »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #111
LoganDark wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parsec uses whatever server you tell it to. Parsec will discover servers on LAN and/or with a port open and display them as distinct entries in the connection list, usually positioned in front of the central server options. So there's no default as you're always the one choosing.

What? No. That's not how Parsec works at all. Are you talking about the same app? Parsec displays computers to connect to. If a hole can be punched, it will use a P2P connection. If not, it automatically falls back to their STUN servers or the Parsec Relay server if you're on the Teams plan. There is no "server" to choose from. There aren't multiple entries for a single computer with different connection options. I d…

> I don't know where you hallucinated all of these things but that's just not how Parsec works.

I opened the app and looked at it. I distinctly remember there being multiple entries if a computer is on the local network. I don't have another computer on the network right now so I can't check.

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