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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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When people cheat on (relatively) small things, it's usually an indication they'll cheat on big things too

Stealing someone's identity is indeed one of those "big things".

Impersonating someone’s voice isn’t stealing anything, and certainly not their identity.

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Incredibly stupid The wink wink at creating an AI girlfriend is so bizarre I guess we know who their target user base is

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As if people haven't spent stupid money on stupid things forever.

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The answer, based on two different court precedents (Bette Midler, Tom Waits), is that the company can't do that. Companies cannot hire soundalike people to advertise their products after the person with a distinctive voice they really wanted declined. Doesn't matter if they hired a soundalike and used her voice.

If they are not trying to trick people into believing xyz person did the voice acting, and instead are going for a certain style, I think they would be protected by freedom of expression. Think of how authors of books describe voices in great detail. i.e. intent matters. In this case, since the other voice actor has a clearly different voice than SJ, it seems like their intent is to just copy the general 'style' of t…

> In this case, since the other voice actor has a clearly different voice than SJ, it seems like their intent is to just copy the general 'style' of the voice, and not SJ's voice itself.

How can you say that when they literally approached SJ for her voice, and then asked the voice actor to reproduce SJ's voice?!

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This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

> maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist If they really hired someone who sounds just like her it's fair game IMO. Johanssen can't own the right to a similar voice just like many people can have the same name. I think if there really was another actress and she just happens to sound like her, then it's really ok. And no I'm not a fan of Altman (especially his worldcoin which I view as a privacy disaster) I mean,…

But clearly they are advertising as her (no pun intended), which is a gray area.

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I really hope she sues the company to hell and back. She has the resources to fight back and make an example of them, and they have the resources to make it worthwhile.

I'm not sure she can do much since OpenAI withdrew so quickly. What damages are there?

The demo OpenAI was a massive marketing campaign for GPT-4o and led to the largest increases in revenue for their mobile app. The voice was a large part of why this release was a hit. The demo is still on youtube with 4M views. She has a great case for financial remuneration even if they haven't yet launched the voice feature.

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This is interesting to hear and if she decides to sue there's extremely clear precedent on her side. The fact that they reached out to her multiple times and insinuated it was supposed to sound like her with Sam's "her" tweet makes a pretty clear connection to her. Without that they'd probably be fine. Bette Midler sued Ford under very similar circumstances and won. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Moto…

I wonder if Scarlett Johansson really has a legal copyright since Warner Bros. owns the rights to the movie "Her." It would be like Dan Castellaneta trying to get a copyright for Homer Simpson when the character is owned by Fox.

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So they wanted Johansson's voice, she declined, they chose another voice actress who sounds somewhat similar. Can someone explain why that is bad? I don't really get it.

Did they really hire another voice actress? Who? As for why it's bad, it's because they set down the precedent of wanting specifically Scarlett Johansen's voice, got declined, doubled down, got declined again, and then went ahead and did it anyway. They can say in their own defense that it's some other voice actress that sounds similar, ok, so produce that name, tell us who she is. Absent that, it's Johansen's voice,…

The training for a voice decoder model at GPT-4o's quality would require specific and numerous high-quality examples.

This is different from how voice cloning models like ElevenLabs works.

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This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

Why are you mad? We have no rights to the sound of our voice. There is nothing wrong with someone or something else making sounds that sound like us, even if we don’t want it to happen. No one is harmed.

The law can actually be interesting and nuanced on this: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/communications...
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