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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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This is the first I've heard of this, but I've used the "Sky" voice extensively and never once thought it sounded like Johansson. Has anyone else noticed a similarity? To me they sound pretty different, Johansson's voice is much more raspy.

Bottom line anyone who watched the movie "Her" will make an immediate connection. Also does not help Sam Xed "her" the night before. Pretty much slam dunk case.

Anyone who watched the movie "Her" will make an immediate connection with any of the female voices. It's kind of the entire point of the film.

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> has a history of not treating people fairly and ethically Grandpa used to say, fallacy often exhibited by powerful people is when they transitively believe their wealth also signifies that the rules don't apply to them.

Your grandpa is/was wise:

> The experience of power has been related to several positive consequences but also to negative aspects, such as illusory thinking. The present research supports the notion that power is associated with overconfidence.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38625848/

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Has this industry learned nothing?

I don't know guys, the super hyped up company with next-gen technology might just be using crime, underhanded tactics, and overstating their capabilities to pull in the thing we all love... and it's not each other or your friend's mother!

It's money!

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This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

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Sam is very clearly in the wrong here, but is your argument for why he sucks seriously that he said “we should not brand people as heretics for disagreeing with my point of view?”

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Most of the reactions here are in unison, so there's little left to contribute in agreement. I'll ask the devil's advocate / contrarian question: How big a slice of the human voice space does Scarlett lay a claim to? The evidence would be in her favor in a civil court case. OTOH, a less famous woman's claim that any given synthesized voice sounds like hers would probably fail. Contrast this with copyrighted fiction.…

This is almost an identical case, and resulted in a ruling favorable to Midler, whose voice was imitated in that case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co

It's indeed pretty similar. However, it involved singing a song Midler was known for. This case is at best peripheral to the movie Her, in that the OpenAI voice does not recite lines from the movie.

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

When people cheat on (relatively) small things, it's usually an indication they'll cheat on big things too

How did they even cheat here?

OpenAI did nothing wrong.

The movie industry does the same thing all the time. If an actor/actress says no they you find someone else who can play the same role.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

They approached Johansson and she said no. They found another voice actor who sounds slightly similar and paid her instead.

The movie industry does this all the time.

Johansson is probably suing them so they're forced to remove the Sky voice while the lawsuit is happening.

I'm not a fan of Sam Altman or OpenAI but they didn't do anything wrong here.

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>Last week, OpenAI CTO Mira Murati told me the Sky voice was not patterned after ScarJo.

>"I don't know about the voice. I actually had to go and listen to Scarlett Johansson's voice," Murati said.

Seems like a big part of Mira’s job is not knowing things. How is no one questioning how she landed a VP job at OpenAI 2 years after being an L5 PM?

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>(A) it's not much better OP seems to be on the "They secretly trained on her voice" train. The only reason "Two Days!" would be damning is if a finetune was in order to replicate ScarJo's voice. In that sense, it's much better. >(C) it's extraordinarily reckless to go from zero to big-launch feature in less than two days. Open AI have launched nothing. There's no date for new voice mode other than, "alpha testing in…

I'm really confused by this claim. How is it that so many people tried this Sky voice if no one has access yet?

There is a voice mode in the GPT app that's been out (even for free users) for nearly a year now. There are a couple voices to chooses from and sky was one of them.

This mode works entirely differently from what Open AI demoed a few days ago (the new voice mode) but both seem to utilize the same base sky voice. All this uproar is from the demos of new sky which sounds like old sky but is a lot more emotive, laughs, a bit flirty etc.

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Worse than that, good luck positioning yourself as a paragon of "AI safety" when you can't even handle basic human business relationships honestly.

Seriously. This is utterly baffling to me. OpenAI is trying to demonstrate how it's so trustworthy, and is always talking about how important it is to be trustworthy when it comes to something as important and potentially dangerous as AI. And then they do something like this...?? I literally don't understand how they could be this dumb. Do they not have a lawyer? Or do they not tell their corporate counsel what they'…

Especially considering that the advantage gained by having an AI sound like this one individual is absolutely minimal. It's not as though any significant portion of a target market is going to throw a tantrum, saying "No, no, I refuse to accept this simulated companionship unless it sounds exactly like the voice in that one particular movie several years ago." Baffling that the company didn't recognise the risk here and retire that voice as soon as they were turned down the first time.
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