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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by bigiain »

fullshark wrote: post #103
endisneigh wrote: post #16

Sadly not much will come of this. Even if they’re fined, so what?

I don't agree, if Johansson is serious about wanting a legal precedent set and doesn't care about the money (tbd) then a hypothetical lawsuit could go to the US Supreme court and lead to a decision that has significant ramifications.

"US Supreme court"

Yeah. _That_ well known completely rational and unquestionably incorruptible institution.

I would bet Altman had been to more teenage sex parties and paid for more holidays with SC judges that Scarlett has... :sigh:

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by chemmail »

stavros wrote: post #111

This is the first I've heard of this, but I've used the "Sky" voice extensively and never once thought it sounded like Johansson. Has anyone else noticed a similarity? To me they sound pretty different, Johansson's voice is much more raspy.

Bottom line anyone who watched the movie "Her" will make an immediate connection. Also does not help Sam Xed "her" the night before. Pretty much slam dunk case.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by nicklecompte »

From the Ars Technica story[1], this is very funny:

> But OpenAI's chief technology officer, Mira Murati, has said that GPT-4o's voice modes were less inspired by Her than by studying the "really natural, rich, and interactive" aspects of human conversation, The Wall Street Journal reported.

People made fun of Murati when she froze after being asked what Sora was trained on. But behavior like that indicates understanding that you could get the company sued if you said something incriminating. Altman just tweets through it.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/openai-pauses-ch...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by famouswaffles »

jprete wrote: post #208
famouswaffles wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) New voice mode is a speech predicting transformer. "Voice Cloning" could be as simple as appending a sample of the voice to the context and instructing it to imitate it.

If they really did that then (A) it's not much better (B) they didn't even wait for an answer from Johansson (C) it's extraordinarily reckless to go from zero to big-launch feature in less than two days.

>(A) it's not much better

OP seems to be on the "They secretly trained on her voice" train. The only reason "Two Days!" would be damning is if a finetune was in order to replicate ScarJo's voice. In that sense, it's much better.

>(C) it's extraordinarily reckless to go from zero to big-launch feature in less than two days.

Open AI have launched nothing. There's no date for new voice mode other than, "alpha testing in the coming weeks to plus users". No-one has access to it yet.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by wilg »

recursive wrote: post #184
cortesoft wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am guessing this is only because they first tried to hire the originals before hiring sound-alikes... otherwise, would it mean that if your voice sounds similar to someone else, you can't do voice work?

> would it mean that if your voice sounds similar to someone else, you can't do voice work? Maybe only when the director's instructions are "I want you to sound like XYZ".

Of course, surely you can do this if you're playing a character, such as impersonating Trump or Obama or an actor on SNL?

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by swat535 »

Does Sam has any more reputation to burn? Seriously, who would genuinely trust him at this point?

I mean I know he has hundreds of blind followers but good Lord, you would think that the man, with all his years of experience had some sense to introspect about what he is trying to achieve vs how he is going about it.

Money really does blind all our senses, doesn't it?

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by wilg »

ecjhdnc2025 wrote: post #220
nabla9 wrote: post #107

Johansson has money to hire lawyers and immediate access to media, so they backed off. Altman and OpenAI will walk over everyone here without any difficulty if they decide to take whats ours.

I often wonder why tech people think so positively about companies they idolise who are Uber-ing their way through regulations. Where do they think it stops? Why would people not want laws? The answer is so they can do the things that the laws prevent. This is POSIWID territory [0]. "The purpose of a system is what it does". Not what it repeatedly fails to live up to. What was the primary investment purpose of Uber?…

Nobody besides cab medallion owners really liked the regulations that Uber violated is probably a big part of it

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by rangerelf »

astrange wrote: post #72
MrSkelter wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have no idea. Th will settle or be forced to admit they used a movie studios IP without payment to clone a voice model. They will cut a check for tens of millions and maybe stock as well. They will run from this as is clearly obvious from the immediate takedown. They are in crisis mode.

Who says creating a voice model from a movie would require you to pay anyone?

I'd say it's a given, every detail in a movie is an artistic expression of some kind.
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